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re: So if I have Corona then have a heart attack and die..

Posted on 4/8/20 at 3:40 pm to
Posted by ClampClampington
Nebraska
Member since Jun 2017
4034 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 3:40 pm to
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conspiracy/hoax as part of a nefarious political agenda


I still have yet to see from a single person what these nefarious agendas entail..
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49153 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 3:40 pm to
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In lieu of a pending test, ALL deaths are classified as Covid -- per national task force.


That's false
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 3:49 pm to
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According to the LA DOH 0 deaths under the age of 29 are being attributed to Covid-19.


LDH is reporting one death under 18. From your link:

Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29055 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 3:51 pm to
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I still have yet to see from a single person what these nefarious agendas entail..
Well you see, it's so simple...


It all started in China, and they are filthy people and we should stop buying any and everything from them, and they engineered the virus so we should bomb them.

But the Democrats are behind it too, no doubt. I'm not sure how, but I know it involves Bill Gates and Hillary and Obama.

And clearly the goal is to hurt Trump, because obviously there is no easier way to win an election than by creating a pandemic, and then convincing every world leader to kill their own economies and convincing health care workers the world over to lie about the extent of the problem.

Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33433 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:07 pm to
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That's false

Except that part where its not false
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Dr. Birx confirms ALL DEATHS of people infected with coronavirus -- regardless of underlying conditions -- are classified as COVID-19 deaths; "We've taken a very liberal approach to mortality."

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It emphatically provides that doctors are to enter the COVID19 code when recording the cause of death even whether it may not be the main cause of death or is the suspected cause of death. It is the default code to be used, especially for reimbursement procedures.

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“There are other countries that if you had a pre-existing condition and let’s say the virus caused you to go to the ICU and then have a heart or kidney problem — some countries are recording that as a heart issue or a kidney issue and not a COVID-19 death.”

Not so in the U.S., according to Birx.

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When asked if not having a definitive test result would skew the data:

“I think that would apply more to rural areas that may not have the same level of testing,” she said
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49153 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:09 pm to
We've been through this on this thread. You are wrong.

The actual CDC guidelines and comments from doctors on this thread prove you are wrong.

Dr. Brix's comments do not mean what you are interpreting them to mean because you are taking them out of context.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29055 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:11 pm to
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Except that part where its not false
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Dr. Birx confirms ALL DEATHS of people infected with coronavirus -- regardless of underlying conditions -- are classified as COVID-19 deaths
Does not equal
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In lieu of a pending test, ALL deaths are classified as Covid -- per national task force.

How can you simply ignore that very important qualifier?
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49153 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:13 pm to
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Dr. Birx confirms ALL DEATHS of people infected with coronavirus -- regardless of underlying conditions


And she didn't say this either.
Posted by honeybadger07
The Woodlands
Member since Jul 2015
4009 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:16 pm to
Grammar cops!! Gotta love them when typing on a mobile device on the go to keep everyone in check!!!

You forgot your period JFYI!!!!!!

Now that you have deflected like a true lib.....do you care to address your false statements?? Hahaha no you don’t but I’m sure you will find an issue with my grammar again!!!!
Posted by honeybadger07
The Woodlands
Member since Jul 2015
4009 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:21 pm to
Dude get off your high horse and stop correcting people’s grammar and give a response to this video....
YOU ARE STUPID....is that better???


Please please please defend this!!!!!!

Note: sorry for any grammar mistakes bitch!
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33433 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:21 pm to
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When asked if not having a definitive test result would skew the data:

“I think that would apply more to rural areas that may not have the same level of testing,” she said
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33433 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:23 pm to
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And she didn't say this either.

Just keep on lying, sport
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When asked if not having a definitive test result would skew the data:

“I think that would apply more to rural areas that may not have the same level of testing,” she said
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29055 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:31 pm to
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When asked if not having a definitive test result would skew the data:

“I think that would apply more to rural areas that may not have the same level of testing,” she said

What is your reason for quoting this? Do you think that it is true or false? Assuming true, do you think that rural areas, which tend to lean heavily conservative, would be the major source of covid death reporting inaccuracies?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29055 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:33 pm to
Also how is that in any way a response to the question of why you equate "all deaths" with "all deaths of people infected with coronavirus"?
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49153 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:35 pm to
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do you care to address your false statements?? Hahaha no you don’t but I’m sure you will find an issue with my grammar again!!!!



Sure, I linked a story that I thought said something it didn't. It doesn't change the overall point of this thread.

Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49153 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:38 pm to
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Dr. Birx confirms ALL DEATHS of people infected with coronavirus -- regardless of underlying conditions


Is not remotely close to

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When asked if not having a definitive test result would skew the data:

“I think that would apply more to rural areas that may not have the same level of testing,” she said


Doctors in rural areas having to make diagnoses on clinical observations because of not having testing kits does not mean "all deaths with people with confirmed cases of COVID will designate COVID on cause of death."

I'm not even sure how you reach that conclusion.
This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 4:39 pm
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49153 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:47 pm to
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Dude get off your high horse and stop correcting people’s grammar and give a response to this video....


I responded in the other thread on this issue.

I'll withhold judgement until I see what the actual document says
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:53 pm to
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Not necessarily


Depending on which state you're in...in Maryland if you cough up blood after a drive by,

CORONAVIRUS!!!
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53988 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 5:08 pm to
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If there is any indication whatsoever that the checks and screenings could be urgent, I highly doubt that they would be denied. Hell, I'm not even 40 yet and in good health, and I have a cholesterol checkup scheduled for next week in BR that isn't being canceled.




Did you not read my post...my colonoscopy and upper GI were canceled the first week of March. My doctor said when the government guidance changes on COVID19 they will contact patients for rescheduling.

I was told by the same doctor all elective procedures and certain health screenings have been put on hold until this pandemic is under control.

Your cholesterol screen is just drawing blood at your PCP office, I guess that’s not something that would impact COVID19 response.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29055 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 5:21 pm to
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my colonoscopy and upper GI were canceled the first week of March. My doctor said when the government guidance changes on COVID19 they will contact patients for rescheduling.
Are you at high risk, or just routine checks?
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