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So I watched Hannity, then tuned in to CNN for competing narratives. Davis and Avenati on
Posted on 8/21/18 at 10:37 pm
Posted on 8/21/18 at 10:37 pm
Competing narratives tonight go like this:
According to Fox guests, hush money is not a crime and a widely used tactic in DC politics.
According to Lanny Davis on CNNs, Cohen suddenly realized patriotism and what a danger Trump is to this country, esp after Helsinki, and he decided to turn on Trump. Davis referenced conspiracy and language of impeachment like high crimes and misdemeanors of Trump.
Avinati surprising called Davis BS and said Cohen didn’t suddenly become a patriot after knowing Trump for 15yrs, that he’s just looking out for his arse.
Both suggest a Trump company payment with a paper trail is a smoking gun and evidence of a crime.
Avenati also suggests he would get to depose the president after deposing Cohen.
Meanwhile Fox guests suggest if hush money is paid for personal or corporate benefit, that election influence is then null. Basically those actions have to be solely for election benefit to be criminal.
I’m drawing no conclusions here. I don’t know the law.
Now, if you’ll excuse me, I have to go vomit after watching CNN.
According to Fox guests, hush money is not a crime and a widely used tactic in DC politics.
According to Lanny Davis on CNNs, Cohen suddenly realized patriotism and what a danger Trump is to this country, esp after Helsinki, and he decided to turn on Trump. Davis referenced conspiracy and language of impeachment like high crimes and misdemeanors of Trump.
Avinati surprising called Davis BS and said Cohen didn’t suddenly become a patriot after knowing Trump for 15yrs, that he’s just looking out for his arse.
Both suggest a Trump company payment with a paper trail is a smoking gun and evidence of a crime.
Avenati also suggests he would get to depose the president after deposing Cohen.
Meanwhile Fox guests suggest if hush money is paid for personal or corporate benefit, that election influence is then null. Basically those actions have to be solely for election benefit to be criminal.
I’m drawing no conclusions here. I don’t know the law.
Now, if you’ll excuse me, I have to go vomit after watching CNN.
This post was edited on 8/21/18 at 10:54 pm
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Posted on 8/21/18 at 10:41 pm to BobBoucher
My question would be aren't Stormy Avenatti and Karen Mc Dougal all guilty of crimes?
If they approached Trump's people asking for payola or they would release damaging info before the election, that is extortion, or blackmail. They may have twisted or worded it some different way trying to avoid it, but that is exactly what this was and someone should charge them with it.
If they approached Trump's people asking for payola or they would release damaging info before the election, that is extortion, or blackmail. They may have twisted or worded it some different way trying to avoid it, but that is exactly what this was and someone should charge them with it.
Posted on 8/21/18 at 10:52 pm to antibarner
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If they approached Trump's people asking for payola or they would release damaging info before the election, that is extortion, or blackmail.
Why is this obvious question not being asked??
Posted on 8/21/18 at 10:54 pm to BobBoucher
Thanks for watching CNN so we wouldn’t have to.
And Avennati deposing Trump.
And Avennati deposing Trump.
Posted on 8/21/18 at 10:55 pm to indianswim
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And Avennati deposing Trump.
Seriously. He bet on it.
Posted on 8/21/18 at 10:58 pm to BobBoucher
The problem is, all politicians are corrupt, and Washington is so knee deep in filth that there wouldn't be one politician left if we started procecuting all who have; cheated on taxes, had affairs, used insider trading to make money, hired illegals, etc.
The biggest problem that I have is that only one side is ever held accountable for these deeds.
The biggest problem that I have is that only one side is ever held accountable for these deeds.
This post was edited on 8/21/18 at 10:59 pm
Posted on 8/21/18 at 11:00 pm to BobBoucher
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Seriously. He bet on it
I would too. Sounds like a good bet.
All eyes on September 10th
Posted on 8/21/18 at 11:36 pm to Kickadawgitfeelsgood
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All eyes on September 10th
Is this going to fall as flat as all of the other dates you promised a boom? How embarrassing for you.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 5:17 am to antibarner
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If they approached Trump's people asking for payola or they would release damaging info before the election, that is extortion, or blackmail.
This is what I've never understood. Unless it just happened. If you have been content with the 'situation' for a decade, then suddenly pop up in the closing days of an election with a threat of smearing a candidate when they have no time to effectively respond, then that should be the ultimate political crime.
It is nothing short of extortion and.or blackmail.
I literally hate "october surprises' with ever fibre of my body.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 5:37 am to BBONDS25
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Is this going to fall as flat as all of the other dates you promised a boom?
Let’s look back to a time before the Special Counsel was named
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Posted by Kickadawgitfeelsgood online on 4/1/17 at 1:25 am to League Champs
Investigation begins
Manafort resignation days later
Unbelievable event of coincidence.
All eyes on September 10th
Posted on 8/22/18 at 5:40 am to Kickadawgitfeelsgood
quote:Is that the Friday boom!
All eyes on September 10th
Every few weeks with Lickamuellerhetastesgood comes another wait until Friday.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 5:48 am to BobBoucher
So why aren’t congressman and senators who have a slush fund to pay off sexually harassed staffers not charged with the same crime?
Posted on 8/22/18 at 6:05 am to antibarner
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f they approached Trump's people asking for payola or they would release damaging info before the election, that is extortion, or blackmail. They may have twisted or worded it some different way trying to avoid it, but that is exactly what this was and someone should charge them with it.
It’s my understanding that Trump bought the story from the inquirer and it wasn’t directly from the women. I originally had this same thought about it being extortion then heard somewhere that he bought the rights to the story.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 6:17 am to Revelator
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there wouldn't be one politician left if we started procecuting all who have; cheated on taxes, had affairs, used insider trading to make money, hired illegals, etc.
Are you suggesting we give Democrats a free pass then? If HRC or Obama cheated on their taxes, you're good with it?
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only one side is ever held accountable for these deeds.
You must have missed the fact that Bill Clinton is the only POTUS to have been impeached since Andrew Jackson.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 6:44 am to Revelator
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The problem is, all politicians are corrupt, and Washington is so knee deep in filth that there wouldn't be one politician left if we started procecuting all who have; cheated on taxes, had affairs, used insider trading to make money, hired illegals, etc. The biggest problem that I have is that only one side is ever held accountable for these deeds.
You've nailed it Rev.
Minus the "all"; though even the good folk who go up there must work within the System (corrupt version) to even have a voice for the people they represent. The very essence of 'politics' is compromise. "A little leavening...".Posted on 8/22/18 at 6:54 am to indianswim
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Avennati
Creepy porn lawyer
MAGA
Posted on 8/22/18 at 6:55 am to BobBoucher
You doubled CNN's viewership.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 6:57 am to BobBoucher
So Samson has had a few Delilahs in his past. Big deal.
How's the destruction of the Philistine temple going?
Thats what we hired him fot, because we were sick of Herod Bush carrying the flag.
How's the destruction of the Philistine temple going?
Thats what we hired him fot, because we were sick of Herod Bush carrying the flag.
This post was edited on 8/22/18 at 6:58 am
Posted on 8/22/18 at 7:17 am to BobBoucher
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eanwhile Fox guests suggest if hush money is paid for personal or corporate benefit, that election influence is then null. Basically those actions have to be solely for election benefit to be criminal.
You can easily establish payments were made prior to election so this is not a campaign issue.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 7:26 am to BobBoucher
quote:Lanny Davis is filthy.
According to Lanny Davis
He is going to do his best to lever any Cohen claim against Trump.
For Davis, this is all about Democrat and anti-Trump politics.
I'm sure he sold Cohen on the merits of that approach. But Davis would put Clinton revenge above Cohen's defense 100 times out of 100. Cohen had better hope the two objectives are perfectly in sync.
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