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re: So all I need to do to afford a $750,000 house

Posted on 3/20/25 at 3:08 pm to
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 3:08 pm to
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So in the example presented if you paid principal down and the value stayed at 150k are building equity?

Absolutely because you had to live somewhere. You might have an argument if talking about a second home (since you already have a place to live). If you pay 1000 in rent a month or pay 1000 a house payment+ins+taxes, you're paying 1000 a month.

Over 4 years, if you rent you've spent 48K and its gone. If you purchase, you will pay down on the mortgage some amount. Let's say 10K. You have 10K in equity even if the home did not increase in value.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 3:08 pm to
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So paying down the loan didnt build equity


We needn't talk in hypotheticals here.
We used an interest-only loan within one of our portfolios on a second home using an interbank lending lending rate float for years. Later we transferred to a 5yr fixed arrangement in the high 2%'s. All of which qualified as a portfolio expense from a tax standpoint (those laws recently changed btw). Our real estate equity built nicely. Meanwhile, we invested the money, which we would have used to payoff the home, in the market. That built nicely as well.
Posted by AgSGT
Dixon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 3:12 pm to
move to the country and find a more affordable lifestyle.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 3:32 pm to
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Absolutely because you had to live somewhere


Incredible

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You have 10K in equity 


No you have 10k of your own money that you paid interest to park into the wall paper of your home

But yes of course you built equity
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 3:34 pm to
You must enjoy arguing with idiots.

Of course, you are correct but the third rate mortgage broker can’t see it.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
3578 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 3:46 pm to
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No you have 10k of your own money that you paid interest to park into the wall paper of your home
Renting, you have all 48K of your money in the wall paper of someone elses home. Perhaps you like that better. Me, I'd rather own. Who knows, the home may appreciate. Renting, if a 200K home appreciates at 5% a year, you're going to have to save 10K a year just to stay even. Saving 10K a year and paying 12K in rent is quite a feat.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93807 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 3:50 pm to
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Renting, you have all 48K of your money in the wall paper of someone elses home


So if you buy a home for 150k and pay principal and the value goes to 100k but you paid in 10k did you build equity?

Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 4:19 pm to
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So if you buy a home for 150k and pay principal and the value goes to 100k but you paid in 10k did you build equity?
No.
Further as most homes are a levered purchase, and somewhat at the bounds of buyer affordability, a drop in value on that scale would be crippling for most owners. Risk-reward at play.

By that token, if folks who could have purchased in 2021 are now on the outside of ownership looking in, they miscalculated risk-reward. It happens.

That is no one's fault. Granted, it is risk intolerance at an age where risk tolerance should be maximized. But no one knows the future. So?

The problem is when blame transference by risk averse folks holds others responsible for ramifications of their own risk averse decisions.
This post was edited on 3/20/25 at 4:21 pm
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93807 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 4:22 pm to
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No


Thank you. Paying principal doesnt build equity

wow this was a drawn out process to just say im right
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10666 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 4:25 pm to
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Paying principal doesnt build equity


It does if the property is not a shithole.

You know, like the ones that were linked to earlier.

Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
35876 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 4:33 pm to
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Is to cancel my Netflix subscription and stop buying lattes and avocado toast?

Then I will be able to afford a house?



Yes, do this for 15-20 years, invest wisely, and you'll be in great shape. Also get rid of the expensive phone, multiple gym memberships, expensive clothes and shoes, etc. Invest, max out Roth IRA (while you can) and 401k. I could go on. But yes, that is the way.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 4:53 pm to
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Thank you. Paying principal doesnt build equity
Good Lord.

OF COURSE PAYING PRINCIPAL INCREASES EQUITY

If one makes a terrible purchase decision, initiates with a -35% valuation, and subsequently improves valuation to -10% through personal investment and improved valuation, has one added equity to his original terrible position?
This post was edited on 3/20/25 at 4:55 pm
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93807 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 4:58 pm to
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OF COURSE PAYING PRINCIPAL INCREASES EQUITY


Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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135699 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 5:00 pm to
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SDVTiger
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154723 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 5:01 pm to
You also must enjoy arguing with idiots.

Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 5:08 pm to
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You also must enjoy arguing with idiots.
I'm trying to help him
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93807 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 5:20 pm to
You dont need to help me. We just went through this exercise

Im right about everything. You plus the Alabama/Florida inbreds are wrong

The stupid in this thread has given me a headache
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154723 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 5:22 pm to
Good luck
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135699 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 5:33 pm to
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Good luck

Apparently "luck" wont do it
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
40326 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 6:10 pm to
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By that token, if folks who could have purchased in 2021 are now on the outside of ownership looking in, they miscalculated risk-reward. It happens. That is no one's fault. Granted, it is risk intolerance at an age where risk tolerance should be maximized.


Probably followed the advice spouted by nearly everyone over 50. “Make sure you wait until you can put down 20%. You don’t want to throw money away paying pmi!”


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