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re: So 7 + 1 tax brackets, no closed loopholes, what is there to like?

Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:17 am to
Posted by Janky
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Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:17 am to
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SLafourche07


Just the man I have been looking for. Are you a CPA?
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:18 am to
$1,550 back in my wallet per year.
Posted by Haughton99
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Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:19 am to
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Economic growth has been stagnant. 3% growth was never achieved during the OBAMA presidency.


Using one single metric (gdp growth) to measure an overall economies health is not something any economist would endorse.

Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:19 am to
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But titling your thread:




This isn't my thread. I simply responded to it.

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After saying you haven't read it



Well, I'm not alone. Several Senators over the weekend said they hadn't yet read it either. And they're the damn ones voting on it, not me.
Posted by SLafourche07
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:20 am to
Perhaps...
Posted by Haughton99
Haughton
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Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:20 am to
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GDP Growth Slows to 1.9 Percent in Obama's Final Days The U.S. economy grew at a 1.9 percent clip during the final three months in which former President Barack Obama's was in the White House, according to a report published Friday by the Bureau of Economic Analysis. Gross domestic product growth in October, November and December slowed from the third quarter's 3.5 percent rate of expansion and was notably softer than what analysts anticipated.


I thought someone just told me that Obama never saw 3% growth during his term.
Posted by Janky
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Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:21 am to
Do all LLCs get the 20% deduction?
Posted by Haughton99
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Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:21 am to
To get back to the OP's question.

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So 7 + 1 tax brackets, no closed loopholes, what is there to like?


Exploding deficits are something I don't like but nobody cares about deficits anymore so why should I.


Posted by SLafourche07
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:22 am to
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This isn't my thread. I simply responded to it.



My apologies. You all start to look-a-like after a few pages.
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:23 am to
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I thought someone just told me that Obama never saw 3% growth during his term.
He didn't for any YEAR in his 8 years for the first time in our history for a two-term President.

Facts are fickle things.....
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:24 am to
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no closed loopholes


Like what?
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:28 am to
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Using one single metric (gdp growth) to measure an overall economies health is not something any economist would endorse.


Who said there was just one?

Unemployment is down. Food stamp applications are down. The stock market is soaring. With gdp that's now 4. How many do you need to admit the obvious?
Posted by Haughton99
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Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:34 am to
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Unemployment is down.


It's been going down for how long? Longer than Trump has been President.

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Food stamp applications are down.


They've been going down for how long? I'll save you the trouble. Since 2013

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The stock market is soaring.


It's been on a near linear path since 2009 which hasn't changed.

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With gdp that's now 4.


Link? 3.1 in 2nd qtr was 3.1 in 3rd it was 3.3.

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How many do you need to admit the obvious?


What's obvious to those that aren't blinded by their love of all things Trump is that the economy is doing today what it has been doing for quite a few years.
Posted by SLafourche07
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:35 am to
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Do all LLCs get the 20% deduction?




*Disclaimer: I have not read through all of the bill yet. So there is more likely than not (definitely) some parts I am missing.*

Short answer: No.

Slightly Longer answer:
It only applies to pass through entities. (Sole-Prop/Partnership/S-Corp)

If the LLC elects to be taxed as a C-Corp. It does not. However it does get the lowered 21% rate.


There are limitations on which types of businesses get to take the deduction (example: professional service businesses), but I believe that even those types of businesses will be able to take the 20% deduction if their income is below the threshold ($157,500 single & $315,000 MFJ) Phaseouts are $50,000 & $100,000 respectively.

Also, I do not believe that you can take the deduction on an LLC set up for investing. If that's the idea that you had.

Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:36 am to
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is that the economy is doing today what it has been doing for quite a few years.
Nope. The economy is doing better now than it did in any year of Obama's terms.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Member since Sep 2003
123896 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:38 am to
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He didn't for any YEAR in his 8 years for the first time in our history for a two-term President.

Facts are fickle things.....
This!
33y/o College Grads in the workplace since 2006 have never seen a normal economy.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:40 am to
The prospect of Economic prosperity is overwhelming Progressives with pessimism. It’s fun to see people like you squirm at the prospect of people prospering.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:43 am to
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33y/o College Grads in the workplace since 2006 have never seen a normal economy.
I don't know how the job market is in your area, NC_T, but here in Baton Rouge I've never seen so many "Help Wanted" signs on businesses. And it's not just since Christmas hiring started. It's been that way going back to the late summer months.

A friend of mine who works for a somewhat large industrial company in Human Resources tells me he can't find enough workers to fill their openings.
Posted by GurleyGirl
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Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:44 am to
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The part where taxes are cut and the economy is already booming....


FIFY
Posted by Janky
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:50 am to
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Also, I do not believe that you can take the deduction on an LLC set up for investing. If that's the idea that you had.


Thank you. I am also in the professional services industry and have a LLC. In 2016, I was taxed as an S corp, but because of the recent tax ruling and wages this year I will not be taxed as an S corp. I saw earlier you said the 20% deduction will benefit you. So, as someone similar (professional service provider) I was wondering how it would benefit me. Thanks for your time.
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