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re: So 7 + 1 tax brackets, no closed loopholes, what is there to like?

Posted on 12/18/17 at 8:29 am to
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133727 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 8:29 am to
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while taking full advantage of them.
Almost everyone who has a 401(k) or pension plan is already enjoying benefits from the tax reform bill.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35194 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 8:31 am to
Lower taxes and less government regulation...what’s not to love? Unless you love big brother stealing your lunch money and bending you ever for a daily lubeless anal reaming.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
48203 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 8:32 am to
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So 7 + 1 tax brackets, no closed loopholes, what is there to like?


You mean besides doubling the standard deduction and lowing the rate???

Those two things alone, even if your info dump were correct, are enough to like the plan.

OR - are you upset that the filthy rich libbers in CA and NY might lose some of their deductions for their million dollar houses????


wait - aren't you supposed to be FOR soaking 'the rich??"

It's hard to keep up with the swerves of the clown car driven by DEM ijits.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 8:33 am to
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Predictable. Why are conservatives such parrots?


From mmcgrath, it's not even possible for a post to have less introspection.
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
16988 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 8:35 am to
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Can you say what your favorite part of the tax bill is and whether that affects you at all? 


My favorite part is the repeal of the healthcare mandate.

It will save me by far the most money as I can obtain catastrophic insurance (which is all I want) that otherwise wouldn't be acknowledged by Obamacare.


Now that you've gotten numerous legitimate responses (and admittedly some boneheaded ones), why don't you tell us the part you hate about it?
Posted by Radiojones
The Twilight Zone
Member since Feb 2007
10728 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 8:36 am to
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I like the part where I save thousands of dollars.


This
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 8:37 am to
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Obamacare wasn't rushed through. It went through the normal legislative process.


WTF?
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
48203 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 8:44 am to
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Right on cue. Obamacare wasn't rushed through. It went through the normal legislative process.


And it was still far from perfect.


You mean it too 18 months to get all the $$$ allocated to the various kickbacks required to purchase the votes.

Not even the DEMs liked it but Obama was black so they had to vote for it.

Everything the GOP said was wrong with it has come true - not one thing promised by it has eventuated. = except for encouraging more illegal aliens to flood to the system (not a headlined purpose of the bill but certainly one of the prime reasons it was concocted)

GOP were ignored - no inputs requested - told = "elections have consequences" = "sit at the back of the bus"

While the DEMs used every procedural trick they could to get it passed.

otherwise knows as "normal legislative process" (when DEMs control the levers)

to wit:
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1. In order for the Dems to succeed in their plan they needed 60 Seats in the Senate to make a super-majority, so they convinced Arlen Specter a Republican to switch parties.
2. Then because all spending bills must originate in the House of Representatives the Senate took the House Bill H.R. 3590, a bill giving housing tax breaks for service members (nothing to do with Healthcare) and rewrite the bill to be a healthcare bill.
3. On December 24, 2009 the new bill will passed by the Senate.
The date is important because in Nov Scott Brown (Republican) was elected Senator replacing Ted Kennedy but would not take office until Jan 2010.
So in Jan the Dems would only have 59 Seats and no longer a super majority..

4. Then the new bill is sent back to the House
The normal process the bill would go to committee get changed voted on and then go back to the Senate where the Bill might have been stopped by the Reps.
But instead of following the normal process the House Dems decided to vote on Senate bill as is.
This way it would not have to get back to the Senate and the President could sign it as is.
5. The House passed the Senate bill with a 219–212 vote on March 21, 2010, with 34 Democrats and all 178 Republicans voting against it.
6. Obama signed the ACA into law on March 23, 2010.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 8:46 am to
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No, it didn't. Nobody was allowed to read it before it was passed, remember?



It was introduced in the House in July of 2009. It wasn't signed by Obama until March 2010. It went through several town halls, mark ups, floor debates.

I'll concede the normal legislative process wasn't entirely true since Dems did have to end up using the reconciliation process to get it passed. But the process it went through to passage isn't even comparable to this tax bill. And even with the vetting ACA went though, there were lots of unintended consequences. If you don't think there are going to be unintended consequences and massive loopholes in this tax bill, you're being willfully ignorant.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133727 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 8:50 am to
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Obamacare wasn't rushed through. It went through the normal legislative process.
=/=
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Dems did have to end up using the reconciliation process to get it passed. But the process it went through to passage isn't even comparable to this tax bill.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 8:52 am to
Yes, I conceded that point. I admitted my inaccuracy. Thanks for pointing it out for me again.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
108329 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 8:53 am to
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Obamacare wasn't rushed through.




Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
76999 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 8:53 am to
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The part where taxes are cut and the economy booms


The mmcgrath melt is just a bonus.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133727 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 8:54 am to
You're welcome. Don't try to move the goalposts again.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 8:54 am to
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Obamacare wasn't rushed through.


The ability of the average liberal voter to simply bald faced lie........with not an ounce of remorse.......is astounding.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
108329 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 8:56 am to
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It was introduced in the House in July of 2009. It wasn't signed by Obama until March 2010. It went through several town halls, mark ups, floor debates.


You mean the Bill that many Dems lied about and others cut many of the town halls out of their schedule because of the backlash.

So much dishonesty in the garbage you are trying to share here. Just as dishonest as those who passed and signed the bill into law.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 8:57 am to
The $2000 I will be getting because everybody in my peer group gets it - I am not “special”
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
23057 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 8:57 am to
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Can you say what your favorite part of the tax bill is and whether that affects you at all?


Can you say what part really offends you?

Can you tell us what part of the tax bill negatively affects you?
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
76999 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 8:57 am to
Spleen is one of the local lib/progs who have just given up even trying to be legit.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 8:58 am to
Well I like it because it lowers my tax bill a couple grand. It also makes my billable rate go up and in turn my salary go up. It also makes you cry
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