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re: Since women have the sole right to decide whether to abort or deliver a baby
Posted on 11/1/18 at 11:07 am to Wtodd
Posted on 11/1/18 at 11:07 am to Wtodd
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Hey wear a jimmy hat
We're called jimmy hats, have you ever seen us?
Most guys wear us round rolled up on your penis
If you're real smart, you will always use us
Put me in your wallet, 'fore some dummy screws us
And goin bare back, without the bare facts
'll have creepy crawlers crawlin on your nutsac!
So get the J-I-M-M-Y to the hats
It's me and two brothers in a pack
"Run out and get your jimmy hats"
"Small, and extra large"
"Run out and get your jimmy hats"
Or this might happen to you!
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Posted on 11/1/18 at 11:09 am to Ollieoxenfree99
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Bc the man's life is not disrupted in any way, while a woman has to carry it for 9 months.
I'm sorry, do women not know where babies come from? Last I checked it's a woman's right to use birth control just as much as it is for a guy. If women are equals to men, they have just as much responsibility to not get pregnant as men do to not impregnate a woman if they don't want kids.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 11:15 am to Ollieoxenfree99
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So if a woman doesn't want to kill her baby, but the guy doesn't want to own responsibility for what he played 50% a part of making, he should be absolved of his responsibility?
By this logic, the guy should have a say so in stopping a woman from having an abortion then. You shouldn't be able to have an abortion without the father signing off on it.
Now on the flip side of that, if you are going to allow women to claim "my body, my decision" which is usually a financial or lifestyle decision, the man should have the same option. He should be able to absolve himself of any responsibility should she keep the child. We are all equal right? Equal rights for all right?
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That's fricking stupid. You have sex, you have the chance of procreating.
Having said all of the above, I am pro life, and I agree with this part of your fit.
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Freeze your jizz and get a vasectomy. Then you have 100% control over whether you impregnate someone.
I agree with this also. When will vasectomy's become free and provided at planned parenthood? Also, I am not up to par on how Dr's operate, but how hard is it for a single guy to get a vasectomy? And how much does it cost? I ask this because I know married men cannot get a vasectomy without the wife signing off on it. I don't know if that is some widespread practice, or just some doctors. But either way, that is complete bullshite.
This post was edited on 11/1/18 at 11:30 am
Posted on 11/1/18 at 11:23 am to Seldom Seen
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Yeah 18 years of child support payments is no disruption.
Or jail if the mother of the child legally files for child support. Especially if it's court ordered.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 11:27 am to Balloon Huffer
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Was George Orwell from the future?
The only thing Orwell was wrong about is who is watching us.
Big Brother is not watching us. Big Mother is watching us.
This post was edited on 11/1/18 at 11:29 am
Posted on 11/1/18 at 11:42 am to beerJeep
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It's called responsibility.
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Why do you hold males responsible for sex but not females?
Women are the gatekeeper.
Except in the case of rape, nothing gets past a woman's gate that she doesn't want to get past her gate.
Therefore, when the woman decides to have her baby despite the father-to-be's objection then the woman should pay all of the expenses for raising her child until the child is an adult.
It's not that complicated.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 11:49 am to ibldprplgld
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I'm sorry, do women not know where babies come from? Last I checked it's a woman's right to use birth control just as much as it is for a guy. If women are equals to men, they have just as much responsibility to not get pregnant as men do to not impregnate a woman if they don't want kids.
While I inherently agree with this line of thinking. It's fundamentally flawed in that you as an individual are pointing the finger at someone for something that you have total control over your own actions.
It shouldn't matter if he/she wants a child or not because you as an individual can control whether or not you yourself want a child or not. (with exceptions of accidents sometimes just happen)
Not saying you are wrong here per se, but personal responsibility for ones owns actions comes into play in as well.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 11:51 am to Loserman
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Women don't need men!
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Give me some of your money, deadbeat!
Posted on 11/1/18 at 12:02 pm to Seldom Seen
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Then outlaw abortions for women and cut off government support for single moms.
LOL... All life is precious until it's born then screw that not my problem anymore amirite?
Posted on 11/1/18 at 12:04 pm to Mr.Sinister
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I'm sorry, do women not know where babies come from? Last I checked it's a woman's right to use birth control just as much as it is for a guy. If women are equals to men, they have just as much responsibility to not get pregnant as men do to not impregnate a woman if they don't want kids.
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While I inherently agree with this line of thinking. It's fundamentally flawed in that you as an individual are pointing the finger at someone for something that you have total control over your own actions.
In the past it could not be scientifically proven that a specific man is the father so that man could deny he is the father (the child looks like the milkman) and not contribute in any way to the upbringing of the child.
Since nowadays the father can be scientifically determined and the woman is still the gatekeeper but now has sole right to decide whether or not the child is born, the father should have the right to give up his parental responsibility if he didn't want to have the baby.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 12:05 pm to Loserman
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Men should not be held financially responsible to support the child.
I don't mind men being held financially responsible.
I mind the fact that they're forced to hand over a check no strings attached.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 12:07 pm to DawgfaninCa
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the father should have the right to give up his parental responsibility if he didn't want to have the baby.
Not arguing that fact. I'm of the mind that if i make a child I will help raise said child.
Therefore I control my own actions and my own birth control responsibilities.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 12:15 pm to Mr.Sinister
It takes two to tango.
Creating a baby is 50% female to 50% male contribution. Yet deciding to keep or abort a baby is 100% female contribution 0% male contribution.
Women want equality, then it needs to apply in all areas. And if they deserve more say in keeping or aborting a baby because it's their body, then they deserve more responsibility for conceiving. It's their body after all, right?
Creating a baby is 50% female to 50% male contribution. Yet deciding to keep or abort a baby is 100% female contribution 0% male contribution.
Women want equality, then it needs to apply in all areas. And if they deserve more say in keeping or aborting a baby because it's their body, then they deserve more responsibility for conceiving. It's their body after all, right?
Posted on 11/1/18 at 12:15 pm to mindbreaker
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Then outlaw abortions for women and cut off government support for single moms.
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LOL... All life is precious until it's born then screw that not my problem anymore amirite?
All life is precious but since abortion is now legal and only the woman gets to choose whether the child is born or aborted then if the mother chooses to have the child over the objection of the father, the mother should bare total responsibility for raising the child.
Since women want to be independent of men and decide to be single mothers then they should bare total responsibility for raising the child.
It's not that complicated.
This post was edited on 11/1/18 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 11/1/18 at 12:17 pm to Loserman
Totally agree, but if I woman were to abort my child I would abort her.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 12:23 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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Totally agree, but if I woman were to abort my child I would abort her.
And it's bullshite that right now, you legally have zero say. If you want your unborn child and want to accept 100% financial and upbringing responsibility, she can overrule you and no judge in the land will rule on your side.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 12:27 pm to Mr.Sinister
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the father should have the right to give up his parental responsibility if he didn't want to have the baby.
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Not arguing that fact. I'm of the mind that if i make a child I will help raise said child.
Therefore I control my own actions and my own birth control responsibilities.
So let me get this straight.
Every time you fricked a woman you fricked her hoping to get her pregnant and having a child with that specific woman.
If your answer is no then why would you be so stupid to agree to letting the mother have sore responsibility to decide that you are going to be the father of her child and forcing you to be responsible for raising the child?
Posted on 11/1/18 at 12:29 pm to DawgfaninCa
quote:Honestly, when you make adult decisions, sometimes, there are adult consequences.
If your answer is no then why would you be so stupid to agree to letting the mother have sore responsibility to decide that you are going to be the father of her child and forcing you to be responsible for raising the child?
My only issue is the no strings attached element of child support.
THAT shite needs to stop.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 12:31 pm to Loserman
Been saying this for YEARS. For there to be equality in this decision a man should be able to disclaim all parental and financial responsibility for the child. If the woman can kill the child against a man’s will than the man should be able to walk away is she chooses to have it. Pretty simple.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 12:37 pm to ShortyRob
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If your answer is no then why would you be so stupid to agree to letting the mother have sore responsibility to decide that you are going to be the father of her child and forcing you to be responsible for raising the child?
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Honestly, when you make adult decisions, sometimes, there are adult consequences.
Since the woman is an adult and the gatekeeper, if she allows a man to get past her gate knowing he isn't fricking her to have a child then she should bare total responsibility for the decision she made to have the baby over the father's objections.
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