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re: Since I Couldn't Get SFP To Answer My Questions, I'll Ask the PT Board.....

Posted on 11/3/25 at 6:45 pm to
Posted by somethingdifferent
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 6:45 pm to
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Yes they were SURVEILED. That's an appropriate description


SFP actually thinks people fall for this sophistry
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 6:48 pm to
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sophistry
Indeed.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 6:53 pm to
Pointing out dishonesty is the literal opposite of sophistry
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 6:54 pm to
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You and your stupid tariff takes.



These arent "my" takes. These are classic conservative beliefs based on actual facts.


Your Orange God is misleading you
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 7:13 pm to
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These arent "my" takes. These are classic conservative beliefs based on actual facts.


You do realize prior to 1913 we were completely funded by tariffs right? Both dems and republicans, right?
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 7:22 pm to
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Your Orange God


That Orange God attended the Wharton School of Business, and ended up doing very well for himself.

Do you really think.he's some sort of rube who doesn't have an understanding of tariffs?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 7:26 pm to
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You do realize prior to 1913 we were completely funded by tariffs right?


This isnt 1913. The economy is totally different and trade is much less a zero sum game than it once was.
Posted by Warboo
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 7:42 pm to
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This isnt 1913. The economy is totally different and trade is much less a zero sum game than it once was.


Trade is trade Roger. The economic forces are different but the trade is the same. You adjust for trade imbalances. This is economics 101.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 7:46 pm to
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Trade is trade Roger.


Do you think trade has a winner and loser? Or do you think both sides can win?
This post was edited on 11/3/25 at 7:48 pm
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 7:49 pm to
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Do you think every trade has a winner and loser?


For the last 50 years? Yep.

Do you think there is way to equalize trade imbalances (winners or losers)?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 7:49 pm to
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For the last 50 years? Yep.


Then why would both parties engage in trade if one will lose? Wouldnt one party just not make that deal?
Posted by Warboo
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 7:54 pm to
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Then why would both parties engage in trade if one will lose? Wouldnt one party just not make that deal?


A big portion of our 37T dollar debt is part of our government excepting “the deal”. The big boys in DC getting kick backs and the rest of us paying for it in more ways than one. That time is over.

Roger have you ever owned, operated, or managed a private business?
This post was edited on 11/3/25 at 7:57 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 7:55 pm to
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Do you think there is way to equalize trade imbalances (winners or losers)?

Communism. Make everyone poor and trade will be more equal, too.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476617 posts
Posted on 11/3/25 at 7:56 pm to
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A big portion of our 37T dollar debt


I thought we were talking trade imbalance
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
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5900 posts
Posted on 11/3/25 at 8:01 pm to
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Communism. Make everyone poor and trade will be more equal, too.


Oh yeah! There it is. So equalizing trade imbalances through trade measure such as tarrifs is now communism. Please share with the class how you came to that conclusion. I can not wait for this response.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
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5900 posts
Posted on 11/3/25 at 8:02 pm to
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I thought we were talking trade imbalance


We are. You may not be.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476617 posts
Posted on 11/3/25 at 8:04 pm to
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So equalizing trade imbalances through trade measure such as tarrifs is now communism.

Uh, no.

Nice strawman, though.

The simple point went over your head, so I'll break it down for the level of a child.

Rich countries will have negative trade imbalances because they have more money to spend on goods from abroad.

Poor countries will have positive trade balances because they're poor and will be more likely to be exporters who can't afford expensive goods.

If you want to "fix" things, you need communism. That makes everyone poor. No more rich countries = fewer trade imbalances.

Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 8:06 pm to
Oh My ........ now I understand why they say those things about you.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 8:10 pm to
If you want SFP to engage with you, you have to first find something that interests him.

Ask if him of the FBI was right to break into Mar a Lago to sniff Baron’s boxers.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
49893 posts
Posted on 11/3/25 at 8:15 pm to
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If you want SFP to engage with you, you have to first find something that interests him.

Ask if him of the FBI was right to break into Mar a Lago to sniff Baron’s boxers.




I'm pretty sure I know where he stands on that.
This post was edited on 11/3/25 at 8:16 pm
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