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re: Since I Couldn't Get SFP To Answer My Questions, I'll Ask the PT Board.....
Posted on 11/3/25 at 8:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 11/3/25 at 8:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Nice strawman, though.
So an actual problem that we have as a nation is now considered your go to “straw man” argument. I have seen you use this 100s of times just to avoid the actual argument. Get some new material.
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Rich countries will have negative trade imbalances because they have more money to spend on goods from abroad.
Ludicrous, rich countries sustain it by keeping trade imbalances from happening. Being prosperous does not mean being financially stupid (which we have for decades).
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Poor countries will have positive trade balances because they're poor and will be more likely to be exporters who can't afford expensive goods.
Again, ludicrous! They have a positive trade balance because we let them have it. There is an easy way to equalize it.
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If you want to "fix" things, you need communism. That makes everyone poor. No more rich countries = fewer trade imbalances.
So the trade imbalances can only be fixed through communism? Thanks for your input comrade!
You have to be the dumbest lawyer on the planet. What a joke.
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 8:21 pm to Warboo
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So an actual problem that we have as a nation is now considered your go to “straw man” argument.
No. That's not correct at all. 0/2
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I have seen you use this 100s of times just to avoid the actual argument.
Incorrect. I point them out b/c people are dishonest and/or bad at rhetoric, so they use them often.
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Ludicrous, rich countries sustain it by keeping trade imbalances from happening. Being prosperous does not mean being financially stupid (which we have for decades).
You're relying on an incorrect assumption (trade imbalances are "financially stupid") to ignore the larger point.
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So the trade imbalances can only be fixed through communism?
It's a satirical response to your question, to show how absurd your question is.
I'm not actually advocating for communism, bubba.
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You have to be the dumbest lawyer on the planet. What a joke.
Multiple levels of my responses appear WAY over your head, and then you add this?
Posted on 11/3/25 at 8:22 pm to Warboo
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A big portion of our 37T dollar debt is part of our government excepting “the deal”.
No...Its a result of our government kicking the can down the road.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 8:24 pm to RogerTheShrubber
You guys are like...love bugs 
Posted on 11/3/25 at 8:38 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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A big portion of our 37T dollar debt is part of our government excepting “the deal”. No...Its a result of our government kicking the can down the road.
Both can be true at the same time Roger.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 8:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
Sorry to go back on topic. Are you denying Obama tapped Donnie’s wires?
Posted on 11/3/25 at 8:50 pm to Rebel
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Sorry to go back on topic. Are you denying Obama tapped Donnie’s wires?
It depends on how you define that (there has recently been similar discussions that incorrectly used the term "wiretapping" which doesn't seem to have happened), but probably not
"tapped wires" =/= "spy", regardless.
There was legally-authorized surveillance of these people, is the most accurate way to describe it.
*ETA: again, none of this is relevant to the claim that I supported Obama
This post was edited on 11/3/25 at 8:52 pm
Posted on 11/3/25 at 8:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
In other words, Obama used the full weight of the government to tap the wires of a political opponent.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 8:53 pm to Rebel
That's one way to spin it.
Again, it's not "spying" and, most important, has no relevance to the claim that I supported Obama
Again, it's not "spying" and, most important, has no relevance to the claim that I supported Obama
Posted on 11/3/25 at 8:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
I haven’t asked that question.
Needed to get the wire tapping confirmation out of the way first.
Needed to get the wire tapping confirmation out of the way first.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 8:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
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No. That's not correct at all.
Great reply and info to back it up Mr Strawman.
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Incorrect. I point them out b/c people are dishonest and/or bad at rhetoric, so they use them often.
Great reply and no info other than opinion from Mr Strawman.
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You're relying on an incorrect assumption (trade imbalances are "financially stupid") to ignore the larger point.
Ah yes the MSM classic reply of “incorrect, unsupported, unsubstantiated etc.” response while using the larger point “straw man” but not laying out the “larger point”.
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So the trade imbalances can only be fixed through communism?
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It's a satirical response to your question, to show how absurd your question is. I'm not actually advocating for communism, bubba.
Cool! So what is your non satirical response? Inquiring strawmen want to know!
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You have to be the dumbest lawyer on the planet. What a joke.
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Multiple levels of my responses appear WAY over your head, and then you add this?
Ah yes! The I am a smarter straw man than you because…….well because….my responses were multiple levels above…..well you know…….lol….you.
Looking for the gotcha chief. You forgot to add the gotcha? Oh, the gotcha is a….. you guessed it….a STRAWMAN. Idiot you are and a laughing stock on this board. Congrats.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 8:59 pm to Rebel
Of course he denies the wires were tapped. Hes lying on page 1
Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:05 pm to SDVTiger
He didn’t lie to me. He full throated agreed Barry tap his political rivals wires.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:06 pm to Warboo
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Great reply and info to back it up
You mis-stated my argument and I informed you of this. Hence the 0/2 (as you've done it twice without successfully doing it)
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Ah yes the MSM classic reply of “incorrect, unsupported, unsubstantiated etc.” response while using the larger point “straw man” but not laying out the “larger point”.
I already laid out the larger point for you, and I even clarified it on the level of a small child
Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:07 pm to Rebel
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He full throated agreed Barry tap his political rivals wires.
Let's focus on precise language
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There was legally-authorized surveillance of these people, is the most accurate way to describe it.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:07 pm to KCT
What if I told you the gov’t is listening and reading everything you say and do. Both administrations.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:08 pm to Aubie Spr96
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What if I told you the gov’t is listening and reading everything you say and do. Both administrations.
You would be correct.
Why these people think politicians should be treated differently are arguing for an elitism that's shocking to me.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
I thought we agreed upon, “Obama used the full weight of the Presidency, FISA courts, and DOJ to tap Trumps wires”?
That is a fully accurate statement, no?
That is a fully accurate statement, no?
Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:11 pm to Warboo
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They have a positive trade balance because we let them have it. There is an easy way to equalize it.
Wait, do we actually want low-skill, economically inefficient manufacturing to be done here? I thought one goal of having an advanced economy was so that we could focus on producing goods and services where we have a comparative advantage and other countries can do likewise.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:12 pm to Rebel
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I thought we agreed upon, “Obama used the full weight of the Presidency, FISA courts, and DOJ to tap Trumps wires”?
No. I said
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That's one way to spin it.
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That is a fully accurate statement, no?
This is the fully accurate statement (with no spin)
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There was legally-authorized surveillance of these people, is the most accurate way to describe it.
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