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re: SIAP: Trans killer blamed his mom and weed.

Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:13 am to
Posted by MikkUGA
Destin
Member since Jun 2014
2216 posts
Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:13 am to
Its not the same because people are either A. mixing it with something else or trying to increase the thc content. You can still get 20 to 30 percent thc marijuana. Maybe that's why it should be legal so they can cap the strength.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
63255 posts
Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:15 am to
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You just did. This happened. Now you’ve heard about it.

Yeah, there's no proof that weed caused this. Psycho troon is doing what leftists do -blaming something other than himself.
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Additionally, Gabby Giffords shooter, the Marjorie Stoneman shooter, the Aurora movie shooter, the Pulse nightclub shooter, and the First Baptist shooter in Sutherland Springs were all marijuana users.

Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacy and Charles Manson were all alcohol users.

See how dumb that sounds?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52342 posts
Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:15 am to
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It may add a little bit to that side, but the mass of weight is still strongly on this starting long before the trans stuff was even a thing with him.

Yeah, no doubt a guy like this was just fricked up from the time he was a small child. Anyone who does a mass shooting is fricked up, and anybody who is trans is fricked up. So it’s impossible to tease out what the primary reason is, except that he’s fricked up. But transitioning seems to be the trigger. Maybe there would have been a different trigger if he had never transitioned.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15476 posts
Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:16 am to
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Did his mom tell him not to transition?


100% chance his mom is a looney white liberal
Posted by MikkUGA
Destin
Member since Jun 2014
2216 posts
Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:17 am to
My wife has medical marijuana for epilepsy. She had seizures her whole life. My doctor told her that she is lucky she wasn't dead from the medications her doctors were giving her. It took him 8 months to ween her off those medicines before starting her on medical marijuana. She hasn't had one seizure since and its been 3 years.
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
5989 posts
Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:17 am to
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You can abuse either one just marijuana doesn't make you blackout and not remember what you did.
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They get anxious but then they eat and fall asleep.
cause that is improving a persons way of life.

People shouldn't do either, but stop acting like everyone is who drinks is getting passed out drunk every time. One beer/shot does not effect a person like one hit of today's weed. Especially if you get it laced.
This post was edited on 8/30/25 at 10:18 am
Posted by Mushroom1968
Member since Jun 2023
5303 posts
Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:18 am to
I just remember fishing in a buddy’s pond and we kept laughing at the fish we caught. Seemed it took an hour to reel in a bream. Ordered pizza and 2 of us devoured 3 large pizzas. Felt like we fished for hours and once we came down figured out we fished about 15 minutes
Posted by Real_American15
Member since Aug 2025
16 posts
Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:21 am to
He knows weed is illegal, right?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62110 posts
Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:21 am to
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the mass of weight is still strongly on this starting long before the trans stuff was even a thing with him.



You are arguing with yourself.

People are saying that being trans is evidence of being significantly mentally ill.

People are not saying that being trans causes people to be significantly mentally ill.

You've consistently tried to separate the trans part from his other mental illness as if they aren't related.

You've gone so far as to say the trans part is "largely irrelevant".

You've relied on the ramblings of this lunatic...but now discard that these statements.

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125550 posts
Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:21 am to
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Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacy and Charles Manson were all alcohol users.


I did not make the claim that “I’ve never heard of no alcohol drinkers doing no crime.” fricking stoners. Shut the frick up.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46225 posts
Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:21 am to
This all misses the point. Trans is growing precipitously as other forms of depression, anxiety, autism, and mental illness grow. It’s ultimately a coping mechanism for despair propagated by leftists who want to normalize the concept of reinventing yourself as a tactic to avoid your pain. It clearly doesn’t work.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125550 posts
Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:23 am to
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Yeah, there's no proof that weed caused this.


Of course “weed didn’t cause this.” It is part of it. Because of human behavior, it’s almost impossible to separate out the relative percentage of blame the various forces in his life brought him to the edge of this psychotic event.

Would he have been better off not smoking weed? 100%
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466906 posts
Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:23 am to
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You've consistently tried to separate the trans part from his other mental illness as if they aren't related.

Not that they aren't related, it's about their respective relevance.

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You've gone so far as to say the trans part is "largely irrelevant".

Correct, and nothing in OP establishes that as wrong.

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You've relied on the ramblings of this lunatic...but now discard that these statements.

Except I literally posted some to support my arguments, in this very thread. His obsession with doing a mass shooting predates the trans stuff by years, based on his own statements.
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
5989 posts
Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:24 am to
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My wife has medical marijuana for epilepsy. She had seizures her whole life. My doctor told her that she is lucky she wasn't dead from the medications her doctors were giving her. It took him 8 months to ween her off those medicines before starting her on medical marijuana. She hasn't had one seizure since and its been 3 years.

Arghhhh why can't you people distinguish between arguments. Your argument isn't the same as recreational use. And stoners take advantage of the sympathetic need.

We are discussing a young person smoking weed, not a mature adult needing it and doing it in a control situation with doctors supervision.

You are arguing the use of fentanyl in a recent burn victim, by promoting continued use by junkies on the street.

It's like clumping up a regular gay dude, and a tranny.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125550 posts
Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:26 am to
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It’s ultimately a coping mechanism for despair propagated by leftists who want to normalize the concept of reinventing yourself as a tactic to avoid your pain. It clearly doesn’t work.


Right. It’s not that playing the tranny game makes you crazy. But rather that the crazies will find a “solution” like trannyism an attractive path to their psychotic brain.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297219 posts
Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:26 am to
Some pro weed folks here are getting too bent out of shape and living in denial.

I use weed, its effective. It has tradeoffs, I dont know why this is so hard for them to understand.

You dont have to demonize alcohol to prop up weed.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466906 posts
Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:27 am to
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We are discussing a young person smoking weed, not a mature adult needing it and doing it in a control situation with doctors supervision.


The age matters.

It's being shown weed has a much larger potential for negative impact on younger users. Since this potential example involves a younger user, the discussion is apt.

I don't think anyone is trying to extrapolate this into arguments against older (25+) users, especially with a prescription.
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
10337 posts
Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:27 am to

Early 20s is the point where many illness really sets in for kids. This kid already had problems and the early 20 brain changes pushed him over the edge.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62110 posts
Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:31 am to
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Except I literally posted some to support my arguments, in this very thread. His obsession with doing a mass shooting predates the trans stuff by years, based on his own statements


You are doing it again.

I thought you held yourself as intelligent?

It seems you’d be able to understand what I’m saying and directly just say you disagree.

It doesn’t matter that his sickness predates the trans stuff. It’s obvious that the trans stuff is related to his mental illness. They are related. They are not separate. The lunatic himself says it “fricked up his head”.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39754 posts
Posted on 8/30/25 at 10:32 am to
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Of course “weed didn’t cause this.” It is part of it. Because of human behavior, it’s almost impossible to separate out the relative percentage of blame the various forces in his life brought him to the edge of this psychotic event.


Some people cannot handle it. I have friends that won’t touch it anymore because they can’t handle the paranoia. Everyone is different.
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