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re: Shocks me to say this but Trump>Reagan

Posted on 2/25/26 at 8:11 am to
Posted by Don Quixote
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 2/25/26 at 8:11 am to
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Favorite Trump description. Trump is like chemotherapy, lots of side effects but he's your best bet to beat the cancer


oh I am SO stealing that one


My first time voting was Reagan in 1980. As has been said, they're different types with different styles for different times. They cannot be compared except to say both are the Greatest presidents of this (broadly speaking) generation.
This post was edited on 2/25/26 at 8:20 am
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
6883 posts
Posted on 2/25/26 at 8:32 am to
Who knows how today’s politicians would have fared in the late 1700’s or 1860’s.

Washington had a scruffy red beard, he had no teeth, he was skinny, and had no formal education. If you saw him on the street today he would probably look like he was on meth. Washington’s family was not rich and everything he had came from marriage. Mount Vernon and the entire plantation was owned by Martha’s family. Even though the family had a large plantation he would be considered house poor.

One of the reasons soldiers in the revolutionary war loved him was because they considered him one of them.

Politicians after him didn’t listen to him or his ideas and went with Thomas Jefferson. Washington and Adams were in favor of a strong central government over strong state government.

Many of his ideas or policies go against a lot of what Republicans stand for today. He was not in favor of some of things in the Bill of Rights. When the Bill of Rights were ratified it was voted on by each state.

Washington wasn’t necessarily in favor of the 2nd Amendment the way it is today. He was in favor of a strong civilian military, but there is no record of his thoughts on the right to bear arms. Everyone thinks the quote “When government takes away citizens' right to bear arms it becomes citizens' duty to take away government's right to govern”. The quote is not from him or any other founding father. The way it is worded it probably came from the early to mid 20th century.

Why he was considered a good president is the transition from colony into a country. He was good candidate for the job, because he was loved by the people and not because he had great ideas for a new country.

He should not be considered a top 5 president. Thomas Jefferson policies are closer to today’s Republican Party than Washington’s were
This post was edited on 2/25/26 at 8:56 am
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
20386 posts
Posted on 2/25/26 at 8:53 am to
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Reagan even had Cali under control as the governor.

And Hollywood before that, he was an American through and through.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55500 posts
Posted on 2/25/26 at 9:00 am to
No chance. Ronald Reagan took over a country that was in a dangerous cold war, suffering from stagflation, and extremely polarized politically. He won consecutive terms - the second by a landslide (almost 60%). And he left after eight years so popular that his successor easily won. Reagan gave us 12 years of uninterrupted Republican rule of the executive and won the House for the first time in about 40 years. He won the cold war, kicked off a virtuous economic cycle that lasted three decades, and instituted a worldwide Pax Americana.

Trump is fighting a more difficult battle, but he has not had nearly the results. And he has never been able to convince the American people to join him anywhere near the extent to which Reagan did.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
25240 posts
Posted on 2/25/26 at 9:04 am to
He says what he feels is right for the entire country! He does not flounder.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
37988 posts
Posted on 2/25/26 at 9:15 am to
My top three are Washington, Teddy R. and Polk.

Trump is up there in the top tier though, and undeniably the best President since Reagan.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
48389 posts
Posted on 2/25/26 at 9:17 am to
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Reagan even had Cali under control as the governor.


And then gave it away as President with the retarded amnesty bill. He actually believed the democrats would keep their word. How naive.
Posted by GreatPumpkin
Member since Mar 2022
3261 posts
Posted on 2/25/26 at 9:20 am to
Lincoln was a tyrant. No one has killed as many Americans as that man.
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
3832 posts
Posted on 2/25/26 at 9:27 am to
Reagan gave carte Blanche amnesty to illlegals.

Who does that ?

For that alone Trump > Reagan.
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
6883 posts
Posted on 2/25/26 at 9:45 am to
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No chance. Ronald Reagan took over a country that was in a dangerous cold war, suffering from stagflation, and extremely polarized politically.

Jimmy Carter signed the SALT II Act with the Soviet Union. It was at that juncture that we knew the Soviets were living on borrowed time. Nixon probably had more to do with the USSR failing than any president after him. Reagan got the glory and sound bites, but the 80’s received the benefits of how the Cold War was handled in the late 60’s and 70’s.

The Soviet government economical stagnation in the 70’s is what really caused their collapse.

In 80’s the Soviet’s spent a lot of money in the war in Afghanistan, but their economy collapsing in tbe 70’s was their downfall.
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