re: Setting up the steal--Social Security numbers, voter registrations and NGOs

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why is it so achingly easy for non-citizens to register to vote in federal elections?

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It’s not a bug. It’s a feature, especially in battleground states.

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It isn’t. And there’s no evidence that this is happening. It’s all “trust me bro.

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It is. You are ignorant if you don't believe it is easy AF and carries no risk for non-citizens to register to vote in federal elections.

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This thread is almost a day old and the data hasn't been posted yet.

We aren't even at "dot connecting" yet.

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I'll connect the dots for you.

DOT ONE: No documentation is needed to register to vote in federal elections. There is zero scrutiny at the registration phase. No ID, no verifiable address, nothing is required and it can be done without anybody laying eyes on the applicant.

DOT TWO: The Help America Vote Act of 2002, P.L. 107-252 (HAVA) requires states to verify the information of newly registered voters for federal elections. Each state must establish a computerized state-wide voter registration list and verify new voter information with the Motor Vehicle Administration (MVA).

States are required to verify the driver’s license number against the MVA’s database. Only in situations where no driver’s license exists may the state verify the last four digits of the new voter’s Social Security Number (SSN). The state submits the last four digits of the SSN, name, and date of birth to the MVA for verification with Social Security Administration (SSA). In addition, SSA is required to report whether its records indicate that the person is deceased.

In August 2004, SSA developed a new verification process known as the Help America Vote Verification (HAVV) system to comply with the requirements of section 303 of HAVA. When an applicant for voter registration does not have a driver’s license, the state may request a 4-digit SSN verification from SSA through HAVV. The state must submit the applicant’s name, date of birth, and last four digits of their SSN. The HAVV system provides one of the following responses concerning the submitted data:

-No match,
-Single match alive,
-Multiple matches alive,
-Single match deceased,
-Multiple matches deceased,
-Multiple matches alive/deceased, or
-Invalid input data.

The state may use the 4-digit SSN verification in its voter registration determination.

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We're not at "SFP was right" but we're close.

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ood. I’m sure you will be able to link us to some actual evidence.

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Read the post above yours. Proof of the first dot is found in the text of the second dot. The second dot is pasted directly from the Social Security Admin website.

Where'd SFP go?

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Read the post above yours. Proof of the first dot is found in the text of the second dot. The second dot is pasted directly from the Social Security Admin website.

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There is nothing on that website that contains confirmation or evidence of a single non-citizen voting.

“But trust me bro, the evidence is everywhere.”

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The biggest spike was in 2024. How did the election work out that year?

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Perhaps that is why the final race was closer than it should have been. It was artificial

Also I thought 2020 was the stolen election. This "spike" the tweet purports happened after.

After 2020, all the red states implemented tougher voting requirements.

anyways, awaiting actual evidence of mass fraud and these voters actually voting

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There is nothing on that website that contains confirmation or evidence of a single non-citizen voting.

“But trust me bro, the evidence is everywhere.”

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This thread is titled "setting up the steal" which is different from "reporting on the steal". So it's instructive that you're unwilling to address the argument that's actually being made here. The facts are:

1. It takes (literally) no documentation to register to vote in federal elections and involves zero risk to do so as a non-citizen.

2. Because it takes no documentation to register to vote in federal elections, states are given the HAVV system/database to "verify" citizenship of a newly registered federal election voter by matching w/ a SSN. 45 states use HAVV for this purpose. Therefore, it's a huge deal if social security numbers are assigned to non-citizens, as that SSN could be used to verify them as a valid voter for federal elections.

Given this system - explain how it's not possible for some one or some group to apply for fed elections voter registration online or by mailing an app for a non-citizen, maybe even without the non-citizen being aware. This coupled with getting a SSN issued in that name would allow a fraudulent vote to be mailed and be counted, right?

So stop hiding from the issue here. Explain how any of the above is not possible. In fact, explain how any of the above would not be easy to do.

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I haven't filled out a voter registration card in a long time, but do they even use SSNs? If not, then what do SSNs have to do with voting at all?

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Not much is needed in IL, *maybe* last 4 of SSN? Not sure if that 'or' applies to the entire list, or if it was last 4 digits PLUS any one of the others (comma placement makes me unsure)?

And...

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Starting July 1, 2024, Illinois residents, including those without U.S. citizenship, can obtain a standard driver's license or state ID without needing to provide an SSN. According to WTTW News, this is a result of new legislation.

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Two forms of identification with at least one showing your current residence address are needed when you register in-person.

If you register by mail, sufficient proof of identity is required by submission of your driver's license number or State identification card number. If you do not have either of those, verification by the last 4 digits of your social security number, a copy of a current and valid photo identification, or a copy of a current utility bill, bank statement, paycheck, government check, or other government document that shows your name and address will be required.

A person may also demonstrate sufficient proof of identity by submission of an identification card issued by a college or university accompanied by either a copy of the applicant's contract or lease for a residence or any postmarked mail delivered to the applicant at their current residence address.

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So what you are saying is “trust me bro, there’s fraud, I just can’t find it and you can’t see it.”

Funny, that’s all we ever get from right wingers. All shite and no sandwich.

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What is funny is that sapient folks are in overwhelming consensus that people like you either

1. Support voter fraud for your party; or

2. Participate in voter fraud for your party;

AND

3. Support violence as fomented by your party; or

4 Participate in violence by your party;

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5. Support criminal activity created by your party's policy and activity; or

6. Participate in criminal activity created by your party's policy and activity;

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7. Support the social malaise and societal breakdown of the USA per your party; or

8 Participate in the malaise, societal breakdown, and general filth, squalor, and immorality per your party.

You and those like you, like the usurpers who installed themselves in your 2020-24 usurper administration using voter fraud, are the shite sandwich.

We know they did it and it is obvious who they are.