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Serious stuff here, the world has figured out Trump’s weakness in negotiations

Posted on 1/27/19 at 7:43 am
Posted by TBoy
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 7:43 am
Trump’s primary negotiation tactic is to be the wild man. He threatens hell fire and pain on his negotiating opponents and acts irrationally. He expects them to fear the consequences of not capitulating. This strategy is openly celebrated here. We’ve watched it unfold in real time. Trump wants his opponents to “bend the knee” or face the consequences.

The Canadians, followed by the Chinese, figured out how to counter negotiate with Trump. You tell him “No” and ignore his bluster. In the end Trump will eventually lose ground and his opponents will be in a better position overall.

The Democrats have also clearly figured this out. Nancy Pelosi demonstrated very starkly that when Trump tries to bluster and bully his way through a dispute, keep telling him “No” and eventually he will fold.

The problem here is that we have Trump for two more years. He’s already fired the top diplomats and negotiators, the professionals who can actually operate effectively on the world stage. He’s made a complete mess of trade policy and diplomatic relations. The entire world will be telling him No from now on. We need a real reset or we will fall sharply.
This post was edited on 1/27/19 at 7:44 am
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48943 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 7:43 am to
Sunday morning breakfast melt.....

quote:

The Democrats have also clearly figured this out. Nancy Pelosi demonstrated very starkly that when Trump tries to bluster and bully his way through a dispute, keep telling him “No” and eventually he will fold.


So a budget was passed with no wall?
This post was edited on 1/27/19 at 7:45 am
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140554 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 7:46 am to
Zip it. No one gives a shite about your opinions. You haven't figured that out yet from all the mocking?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 7:48 am to
quote:

Zip it. No one gives a shite about your opinions. You haven't figured that out yet from all the mocking?
Another polite invitation to civil discussion from Roadkill.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67971 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 7:48 am to
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He's made a complete mess of trade policy and diplomatic relations. 


What we really need is a guy that appeases and sends pallets of cash to genocidal regimes.
This post was edited on 1/27/19 at 7:53 am
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 7:49 am to
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22849 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 7:49 am to
Hello Prog hero hank
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48943 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 7:49 am to
Low Tboy is claiming complete victory here when nothing of the sort took place
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 7:49 am to
Yes, because the Canadians and Chinese really had their way with Trump.
Posted by ynlvr
Rocket City
Member since Feb 2009
4591 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 7:51 am to
quote:

He’s made a complete mess of trade policy and diplomatic relations.

The mess was there before Trump’s arrival. He has simply said No to the unfavorable trade and diplomatic policies of his predecessors.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64368 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 7:52 am to
Very good try. My daughter in 10 grade heard the same analysis from her all too young female history teacher.
Your slowly getting there. Another decade or two perhaps.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17473 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 7:53 am to
quote:

Another polite invitation to civil discussion from Roadkill.


So you think TBoy, or any one else like him/her, is capable of civil discourse?

You need to drop the darn act that you are some moderate Hank and just admit you are a Never Trumper
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
15010 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 7:53 am to
Surely you jest. Trump got the better of Canada and China and the battle with Pelosi is far from over.

I can't even take this seriously because it is so far off base
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17712 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 7:57 am to
It’s not over yet Low T boy.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140554 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 8:00 am to
It applies to you as well. Surely you are smart enough to see it. You have said you are very smart so...
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27995 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 8:02 am to
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The problem for TBoy here is that we have Trump for six more years.


you're welcome
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118847 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 8:08 am to
You are mostly wrong.

How’s NK going? Pretty well I’d say.

Canada? They bent the knee on the origin of products to join the USMC.

China? We are making progress. Things come together March 1.

NATO? More NATO nations are paying more as the agreement stipulates.

Syria? Decimated ISIS to the point where we are considering leaving.

You ever wonder why the price of gas is so cheap at the pump? Yea, a large part of that are Trumps policies.

Pelosi? Pelosi figured out Donald has a soft spot. Using DACA people in negotiations has no leverage because he would never up root them and send them back.

ETA: Maduro just bent the knee last night.
This post was edited on 1/27/19 at 8:16 am
Posted by Geauxst Writer
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2015
4960 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 8:16 am to
The IP is exactly correct. Trump can be a bully in real estate - you can jump in or jump out.

Remember he also went bankrupt 3 maybe 4 times. Can’t bail on the US when you come up a loser. He has no clue how to to negotiate in government. Un and Xi and Putin
Are playing him. For Nancy, Trump is easy
- like anticipating what a child would do.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48943 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 8:17 am to
The best analogy I have for LowTboy is Stalingrad, Trump just pulled back to the Volga bridgehead to let Pelosi occupy the rubble..............soon MF
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 8:18 am to
quote:

The IP is exactly correct. Trump can be a bully in real estate - you can jump in or jump out. Remember he also went bankrupt 3 maybe 4 times. Can’t bail on the US when you come up a loser. He has no clue how to to negotiate in government. Un and Xi and Putin Are playing him. For Nancy, Trump is easy - like anticipating what a child would do.


He can’t get played any worse than the last president and the politicians the last 2 decades. That is for damn sure
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