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re: Sentence Reached
Posted on 6/9/26 at 10:40 pm to AlwysATgr
Posted on 6/9/26 at 10:40 pm to AlwysATgr
quote:Amen and amen
Foo, my brother, this is why they get it wrong every single time. They do not understand the theology of God's Word.
No matter how often and loud they screech "plain meaning" and "you pivoted," they will continue to stumble.
Something about aroma in 2 Co.
I don't expect to change his mind, because he is incapable of understanding spiritual truth apart from the Spirt of God, but at least I can demonstrate that he is the fool that God says he is for his rejection of His creator.
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 10:42 pm to FooManChoo
Many men eat
But
Few men chew
But
Few men chew
Posted on 6/9/26 at 10:43 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
Because it was never an option.
Does that mean justice was never an option?
You won't answer the simple question will you. Does SFP consider this justice?
3 key strokes max is all it takes.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 10:45 pm to AlwysATgr
Why do posters think they are televangelists that are needed to give sermons and blanket Bible quotes?
Why not ask someone to step up in the evangelist thread yall turn it into and be healed?
Catch more bees with honey over pride and arrogance, no?
Why not ask someone to step up in the evangelist thread yall turn it into and be healed?
Catch more bees with honey over pride and arrogance, no?
Posted on 6/9/26 at 10:48 pm to SallysHuman
Hope he has to spend all 35 years locked up and better yet, he gets in more trouble while in prison and gets more time added on.
Karma!
Karma!
Posted on 6/9/26 at 10:48 pm to Kafka
quote:
Many men eat
But
Few men chew
Posted on 6/9/26 at 10:50 pm to FooManChoo
quote:
I don't expect to change his mind, because he is incapable of understanding spiritual truth apart from the Spirt of God
You will never change his mind, but he’s perfectly capable of understanding.
That’s not what’s motivating his involvement in the conversation though.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 10:51 pm to PaulDrake
Karma Karma Karma Karma Karmelo Karmelia
Posted on 6/9/26 at 10:53 pm to FooManChoo
quote:Well said brother.
If you understood Christian theology, you would know that I have remained absolutely consistent. I interpret the Bible according to the Bible.
You seem to be having a conniption because you want to read a verse apart from the larger context and then complain when someone calls you out for your poor hermeneutic.
This is why I tell you to stick to the law. You're out of your depth when it comes to Christian theology.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 10:56 pm to SallysHuman
quote:
Foo can fight for himself... but I imagine "shed blood" refers to unjust killing in this instance.
You mean like David committing murder to conceal his affair with Bathsheba? Or Moses murdering an Egyptian in an action that was not ordered or sanctioned by God?
Besides, you are again making my point. Foo is the one who wants to proof text Genesis 9:6. Meaning that he is the one who wants to deny that there is any other context in the Bible that changes the interpretation of only what is printed in that one verse.
I'm the one pointing out that that can't be the case.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:00 pm to cajunangelle
quote:
Why do posters think they are televangelists that are needed to give sermons and blanket Bible quotes?
Why not ask someone to step up in the evangelist thread yall turn it into and be healed?
Catch more bees with honey over pride and arrogance, no?
No idea what you mean by this.
We were discussing the concept of justice as it relates to the Anthony-Metcalf case.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:00 pm to FooManChoo
quote:
Based on the context of the rest of the Bible, it's speaking of murder. If you murder someone, you forfeit your life, because the person you murdered is made in the image of God, and justice demands your life for theirs.
Except that I mentioned murderers who lived natural lifespans and had close relationships with God, and God never told them that they needed to go find a sword and fall on it for having murdered.
Which is also the context of the rest of the Bible.
This post was edited on 6/9/26 at 11:01 pm
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:01 pm to wackatimesthree
I hope Carmelo's family saved some of that defense fund money to buy him lots of lidocaine rectal cream.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:01 pm to wackatimesthree
quote:
Or Moses murdering an Egyptian in an action that was not ordered or sanctioned by God?
Moses had not encountered God.
quote:
You mean like David committing murder to conceal his affair with Bathsheba?
David.. like Moses.. was flawed.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:01 pm to Goforit
quote:
I hope Carmelo's family saved some of that defense fund money to buy him lots of lidocaine rectal cream.
O.k.
Any particular reason you thought I needed to know that?
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:03 pm to SallysHuman
quote:
Moses had not encountered God.
So only people who have encountered God are bound by Genesis 9:6?
quote:
David.. like Moses.. was flawed.
Good grief. Everybody is flawed. So being flawed exempts you from Genesis 9:6?
Why was the edict even given, then?
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:10 pm to FooManChoo
quote:
The words you quoted do not specify murder.
The context does
I'm not sure it does.
Here's the whole section:
quote:
4 “But you must not eat meat that has its lifeblood still in it. 5 And for your lifeblood I will surely demand an accounting. I will demand an accounting from every animal. And from each human being, too, I will demand an accounting for the life of another human being.
6 “Whoever sheds human blood,
by humans shall their blood be shed;
for in the image of God
has God made mankind.
Animals aren't capable of committing murder, but they can kill humans, and God is including animals equally (in fact, he lists them first) in His demand for accountability for shedding blood in this part of the covenant. In the context of this passage, the logical conclusion is that it is NOT talking about murder, only killing (or really, only shedding the blood of) human beings.
You have resorted to eisegesis here IMO.
This post was edited on 6/9/26 at 11:13 pm
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:19 pm to wackatimesthree
quote:God set the standard for human justice in Genesis 9:6. In Moses' case, he was actually sought out for his murder and the Pharoah was going to put him to death (civil justice). For David, he was king, so there wasn't a higher civil authority to carry out justice. God spared their lives for a greater purpose, but both men certainly deserved death by civil authorities for murder.
You mean like David committing murder to conceal his affair with Bathsheba? Or Moses murdering an Egyptian in an action that was not ordered or sanctioned by God?
quote:Again, I'm interpreting the Bible by the Bible.
Besides, you are again making my point. Foo is the one who wants to proof text Genesis 9:6. Meaning that he is the one who wants to deny that there is any other context in the Bible that changes the interpretation of only what is printed in that one verse.
I'm the one pointing out that that can't be the case.
If you want to show where the Bible doesn't allow for lawful killing, then I'd be happy to debate that with you, because there are many instances where not only is it lawful to kill in self-defense, just war, or for capital punishment, but God even commands it in many instances, meaning that such taking of life is differentiated from murder.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:19 pm to wackatimesthree
quote:
Or Moses murdering an Egyptian in an action that was not ordered or sanctioned by God?
Hmmmm . . .
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:20 pm to wackatimesthree
quote:Self-murder is also murder. Why would God command them to sin twice by murdering themselves after murdering someone else?
Except that I mentioned murderers who lived natural lifespans and had close relationships with God, and God never told them that they needed to go find a sword and fall on it for having murdered.
Which is also the context of the rest of the Bible.
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