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Posted on 12/6/19 at 12:16 pm to Centinel
The Senate changes its rules constantly. “Cuz Senate Rules” is a nonsensical argument.
But what if it’s NOT recorded. It clearly states that 1/5 vote is required to document the up and down votes associated with members.
The final documentation can be “The Senate voted to acquit.” They don’t even have to put the margin of acquittal.
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No. Because if it's recorded and can be made public, it's not a secret ballot
But what if it’s NOT recorded. It clearly states that 1/5 vote is required to document the up and down votes associated with members.
The final documentation can be “The Senate voted to acquit.” They don’t even have to put the margin of acquittal.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 12:18 pm to texashorn
Not that I think any of this is going to happen, but it would seem inadvisable to catch the double whammy of (1) not achieving the secrecy they'd hope for and then (2) the stigma of having concealed one's vote from his or her constituents who I would guess expect accountability from their elected representatives.
Would be a pretty damaging choice IMO.
Would be a pretty damaging choice IMO.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 12:20 pm to texashorn
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The Senate changes its rules constantly. “Cuz Senate Rules” is a nonsensical argument.
You asked if the Senate already had rules on a Impeachment Trial. The answer is yes. Of course they can change them. But that's not what you asked.
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But what if it’s NOT recorded.
What if the sun doesn't rise tomorrow?
Posted on 12/6/19 at 12:24 pm to Centinel
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You asked if the Senate already had rules on a Impeachment Trial.
No, I did not. Your reading skills are poor.
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The Senate has already adopted the rules for this trial?
Posted on 12/6/19 at 12:37 pm to texashorn
You like Warren or Bernie for 2020?
Posted on 12/6/19 at 12:37 pm to texashorn
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The Senate has already adopted the rules for this trial?
Yes. That's kind of what Standing Rules mean. They can of course change them, but that's simply modifications to the Standing Rules.
Speaking of poor reading skills...
Posted on 12/6/19 at 12:42 pm to Centinel
Ok, you got me there. I was ignorant of standing rules for impeachment (which can be changed).
However, this argument is obfuscating the question about whether the trial vote associated with each member can be secret. Which, using Centinel’s constitutional “boom,” it can be.
However, this argument is obfuscating the question about whether the trial vote associated with each member can be secret. Which, using Centinel’s constitutional “boom,” it can be.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 12:44 pm to roadGator
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You like Warren or Bernie for 2020?
TRUMP all the way.
Why do you keep accusing me of being a liberal?
Posted on 12/6/19 at 12:47 pm to Jcorye1
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It'd be tough for a Republican in the Senate to vote for impeachment.
Look at how the votes shook out for the Kavanaugh confirmation and how much pressure there was on the GOP to confirm him. Multiple that times one hundred and that's what they would face during an impeachment vote.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 12:47 pm to cajunangelle
[quote]Romney owns Utah politics he isn't worried but you can bet he and Turtle have a deal readied.
CA, around a month ago, I was linked to a Utah based message board that posted the results of a poll taken on Romney's popularity. He was at 34% approval. If that is valid, there is hope for the good people of Utah.
CA, around a month ago, I was linked to a Utah based message board that posted the results of a poll taken on Romney's popularity. He was at 34% approval. If that is valid, there is hope for the good people of Utah.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 12:59 pm to texashorn
I didn’t accuse you. I thought you were a Bernie bro. No big deal.
Got fitted for your coat yet?
Got fitted for your coat yet?
Posted on 12/6/19 at 1:09 pm to Centinel
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That's not what he was getting at. The Senate doesn't vote for Impeachment. The House does.
I know that, but took "impeachment" in this case to mean "conviction and removal."
Posted on 12/6/19 at 1:10 pm to cajunangelle
They're trying to entice the Democrats into giving it a go. It's a trap.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 1:24 pm to texashorn
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texashorn
You’re making a complete arse of yourself here. Like, you look like an idiot. You should bow out now and save yourself further embarrassment.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 1:31 pm to Darth_Vader
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You’re making a complete arse of yourself here. Like, you look like an idiot. You should bow out now and save yourself further embarrassment.
You're talking to someone that thinks that military service is neither honorable nor heroic if you take a commission through ROTC.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 1:32 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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You're talking to someone that thinks that military service is neither honorable nor heroic if you take a commission through ROTC.
shite I wonder what he thinks of me considering I commissioned through OCS.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 1:36 pm to Darth_Vader
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Each House shall keep a Journal of its Proceedings, and from time to time publish the same, excepting such Parts as may in their Judgment require Secrecy; and the Yeas and Nays of the Members of either House on any question shall, at the Desire of one fifth of those Present, be entered on the Journal.
Can you explain to me how this REQUIRES that ALL votes of each member be documented, and that there is no room for secrecy?
I’m waiting...
Posted on 12/6/19 at 1:39 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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You're talking to someone that thinks that military service is neither honorable nor heroic if you take a commission through ROTC.
You’re being dishonest (big surprise).
I said that taking the ROTC route to forestall being drafted or avoiding immediate service while going to college at the height of the Vietnam War was tantamount to being a draft dodger.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 1:41 pm to cajunangelle
This is bullshite spin. If there isn’t 1 House Republican willing to vote for impeachment, there won’t be 1 Senate Republican who votes for impeachment.
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