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re: See. THIS is an example of the policing problem in the United States
Posted on 7/3/25 at 8:22 am to 615tider
Posted on 7/3/25 at 8:22 am to 615tider
quote:I agree they should sue but this is no real solution. A huge part of the problem is that there's no actual penalty for the police officer or even the leaders in this situation. If they get sued and lose the city will pay and if you try to sue the cop individually he'll get covered by qualified immunity which has such a wide net as to make policing almost impervious to punishment
Sue him and anyone else involved and make sure his arse is no longer in law enforcement
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Posted on 7/3/25 at 8:25 am to SallysHuman
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On one hand I get why they are so hostile to people
I often hear the refrain about how they deal with so many bad people as some sort of excuse for them. But wait a second. The overwhelming majority of people in America or at least semi decent law-abiding people. It's just as Fair especially when dealing with traffic stops to say that the overwhelming majority of traffic stops involve a perfectly decent human being driving the car. Yet the police feel completely Justified in treating us all as if we are in existential threat. Now I get that they have to be safe. But has it occurred to these stupid fricks that we've seen enough bad cops during traffic stops that maybe there's a reason we figured out to shut the frick up and cooperate only as much as legally required? Now I'm not talking about being an a-hole. I'm polite as frick if I get pulled over. But I'm not helping the motherfrickers!
Posted on 7/3/25 at 8:27 am to Grumpy Nemesis
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But I also kind of think it would be nice if they were expected to know the law!
I'm not saying there's no room for improvement. I'm not defending the video (to the other person responding to me).
I'm just making the case that, like with certain demographics, we stop attacking the entire policing body across the nation.
I'm making the case that we don't have a huge "policing problem in the US." So blanket statements are not applicable. Some police forces, of which there are MANY, have training and psyche eval problems. The majority do their jobs well enough to not deserve to be lumped in.
I guess my argument is one of semantics and wording, and being sure WE don't judge all based on few. It's important to make the distinction as individuals.
This post was edited on 7/3/25 at 8:30 am
Posted on 7/3/25 at 8:29 am to the808bass
There is no credible movement to “defund the police”. Only a few dumbasses seeking attention…
Posted on 7/3/25 at 8:30 am to Grumpy Nemesis
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I often hear the refrain about how they deal with so many bad people as some sort of excuse for them. But wait a second. The overwhelming majority of people in America or at least semi decent law-abiding people.
I don't get it... It seems like, to me, they have the upperhand... body armor, gund, tasers... yet yeah, they treat errbody like an existential threat. I'd be terrified to be pulled over in today's hyper-police climate.
I think the fact that there ARE even shows like OPL proves that the overwhelming majority of policing thinks this hostile, adversarial nonsense is okay.
Act like that in the ghetto... but damn, most people are just trying to get through their day.
They proudly show scenes on OPL where they pull over **bicycles** for crying out loud or treat the victim like a chainsaw murderer. I find myself going NWA when I watch that show.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 8:31 am to m2pro
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I'm just making the case that, like with certain demographics, we stop attacking the entire policing body across the nation
I will be happy to do this. The moment it becomes normal for police departments to not circle the wagons. The moment that when unknown camera footage shows up two weeks later it doesn't turn out that every cop on the scene lied their arse off. The moment the police start holding themselves accountable instead of investigating themselves and discovering they did nothing wrong. Especially in situations where literally everybody else can tell they did something wrong.
They have completely lost the right to expect the default respect because their default is to defend each other at nearly all costs.
The police approached the public within us versus them attitude almost universally. Hell they teach as a matter of course that their safety is Paramount when precisely the opposite is true. My safety is fricking Paramount a-hole. If you feel me over I wasn't looking to bother you so my safety is Paramount. If you've chosen the interact with me I wasn't looking for you. So my safety is Paramount.
Until they get that shite through their thick fricking skulls and remember they exist to support us then they deserve the reaction they're getting more and more
Posted on 7/3/25 at 8:34 am to Grumpy Nemesis
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Hell they teach as a matter of course that their safety is Paramount when precisely the opposite is true. My safety is fricking Paramount a-hole. If you feel me over I wasn't looking to bother you so my safety is Paramount. If you've chosen the interact with me I wasn't looking for you. So my safety is Paramount.
Amen!
Posted on 7/3/25 at 8:35 am to SallysHuman
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Honestly, binging OPL is one of the things that changed my thin blue line beliefs
I don't know what OPL is, but for me it was a very large online firearm forum. Lots of law enforcement there on their general discussion forum, anonymous like most forums and they could speak freely. And they did. And they will side with their "brother" 99.9% of the time against you regardless of the circumstances.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 8:38 am to SallysHuman
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I think the fact that there ARE even shows like OPL proves that the overwhelming majority of policing thinks this hostile, adversarial nonsense is okay
They think they are our daddy.
Heck. How many times have you seen video of them yelling at somebody for what they did wrong while giving a ticket or something like that. Mother fricker. You ain't my daddy. Shut the frick up. Write your ticket and get out of my fricking face.
I'm supposed to my hands on the steering wheel and be polite to your arse and you think you have a right to be berate me because I was driving too fast? frick you. Give me the ticket. That's your job. You're law enforcement. The moment you start feeling like my daddy go home and beat your wife instead
Posted on 7/3/25 at 8:39 am to Flats
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I don't know what OPL is, but for me it was a very large online firearm forum. Lots of law enforcement there on their general discussion forum, anonymous like most forums and they could speak freely. And they did. And they will side with their "brother" 99.9% of the time against you regardless of the circumstances.
Definitely an us vs them mentality.. it sucks.
OPL is On Patrol Live, which used to be LivePD... it's a three hour show twice a week that has 10 or so departments that are followed live and broadcast.
What really sucks is getting your face on national television when you got pulled over for a taglight or as a victim or witness to a crime... people begging not to be on TV and just getting their shite plastered all over the public sphere.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 8:41 am to SallysHuman
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What really sucks is getting your face on national television when you got pulled over for a taglight or as a victim or witness to a crime... people begging not to be on TV and just getting their shite plastered all over the public sphere.
Those shows are a window into the soul. Because they put up stuff that is flagrantly bad and act like it's no big deal. And it's obvious the cops get off on it. And for all of the oh it's just a few bad apples people. You know that shite is reviewed by the Departments before it gets put out. So they are clearly okay with me ridiculous Behavior.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 8:42 am to Grumpy Nemesis
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They think they are our daddy.
Agreed... last week or the week before they hassled WALKERS because they were a little to far into the roadway (long, straight rural looking road) without a sidewalk. One of the two walkers did turn out to have a legal issue- but they detained them for what seemed like hours for fukkin **walking**.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 8:44 am to VOR
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Only a few
You’re not good with numbers.
Plus, you minimize any movement within your own progressive bucket of filth that you know is unpopular. So you can continue to frick off.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 8:45 am to Grumpy Nemesis
How the frick can he walk in? He should be charged with trespassing.
I hope this particular cop dies a slow, painful death
I hope this particular cop dies a slow, painful death
Posted on 7/3/25 at 8:47 am to Grumpy Nemesis
quote:Nearly ONE HUNDRED PERCENT of police officers will lie in this manner to accomplish what they need and keep themselves from getting in trouble.
Tells his supervisor that he never heard the dog before he walked in which is a flagrant lie when you watch the camera
Show me an honest police report and I’ll kiss your arse. They.all.lie.
And it’s to frick over their fellow citizens and improve their own lot.
As a whole, police officers are evil and should be recognized as the enemy.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 8:48 am to Grumpy Nemesis
If only there was a law making it illegal to enter a residence without an arrest warrant and cause....hmmmmm
Posted on 7/3/25 at 8:48 am to Grumpy Nemesis
It’s a thin line between right and wrong and that thin blue line can sometimes get pretty dadgum thin.
After all, they have two things that all kinds of folks lust for: a badge and a gun…
After all, they have two things that all kinds of folks lust for: a badge and a gun…
Posted on 7/3/25 at 8:50 am to the808bass
quote:I don’t agree with this at all.
It does, though. I’ve been one of the larger critics of policing on this board in the past. But our biggest problems are not tied to over zealous policing. Even if you’re limiting it to discussions of law and crime. So people are pushing back against a Marxist narrative that we need to defund police. That’s a good impulse on their part. Even if it means that we don’t take atrocious policing like this as seriously as we should.
There isn’t a big enough push to defund policing, especially in red areas, that it calls for us to have to support these a-hole police officers through opposition of the defund the police movement.
Posted on 7/3/25 at 8:54 am to ReauxlTide222
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There isn’t a big enough push to defund policing, especially in red areas, that it calls for us to have to support these a-hole police officers through opposition of the defund the police movement
I will say this. We need to completely reexamine how we do local policing. It's completely fricking absurd that towns of 1500 people have four police officers sometimes more. Hell it's completely absurd that they have a police department at all.
When you start consuming a lot of videos of police doing stupid arse shite one thing that becomes readily apparent is how disproportionately often those videos are from some fricking Podunk town.
I mean think about it. 90% of the bad videos really should come from Chicago New York New Orleans Atlanta etc etc. But that's not where they come from. It's more like 90% come from small communities that are barely paying Home Depot wages and giving a guy a badge
Posted on 7/3/25 at 8:54 am to ReauxlTide222
We disagree. I’ll live through it.
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