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re: Secretary Hegseth says the US attacked Iran because the US was tired of being tapped along
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:11 am to Swamp Angel
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:11 am to Swamp Angel
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Nope. We hadn't decided on it. We had planned for it in the event it became a course of action that had to be taken, but that decision had not been made.
Nah, we saw the regime was weaker than ever during the mass protests and knew this was our only chance to take them down.
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Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:13 am to BOHICAMAN
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Why did you ChatGPT me a list of attacks on US interests in the region?
Because you apparently were too lazy to do it yourself.
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We decided to attack in at least January when it became evident that the regime was weaker than ever and knew this would be the best opportunity we’d likely ever get to effect regime change in Iran.
You have any sort of evidence to back this up, any detail you can point to, any meeting where this may have been decided? I might actually be willing to buy it, this always seemed like an eventuality, but "because I said so" isn't going to suffice.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:13 am to BOHICAMAN
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Honestly we were the ones negotiating in bad faith. We decided on this war in January at least. The Iranians knew this which is why they were “tapping us along” in an effort to build up their missile and drone stores as much as possible before hostilities broke out.
Reread what you wrote, and if you still think you’re right, well… you’re just a dumbass
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:13 am to BOHICAMAN
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I’m in full support of this war against the Iranian regime
Claiming we were a negotiating and bad faith is an interesting way to show your support. If the Iranian regime would have conceited what was necessary to make sure they were never nuclear this action would not be happening.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:14 am to Bass Tiger
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If Iran was vulnerable to a US attack and they knew the outcome would be catastrophic for the Islamic Regime they should have made a deal with the US.....they had to know they were not dealing with Obama or Biden.
Did you not notice how the “negotiations” started with nuclear weapons and then shifted to ballistic missiles? That Iran could not be allowed to “live under the umbrella of its missile systems” capable of threatening the region. There was never gonna be a deal. The only possible deal that could’ve been made was for the regime to up and leave Tehran and live in exile somewhere.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:15 am to Bass Tiger
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I think it was obvious Trump wasn't going to do another Obama type agreement and that was the stumbling block.
Yeah, because giving Iran what they want then hoping they will play nice isn't a great strategy.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:15 am to RolltidePA
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Because you apparently were too lazy to do it yourself.
I don’t need to google what Iran has done for the past 45 years. I don’t live under a rock.
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You have any sort of evidence to back this up, any detail you can point to, any meeting where this may have been decided? I might actually be willing to buy it, this always seemed like an eventuality, but "because I said so" isn't going to suffice.
It’s called common sense
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:17 am to BOHICAMAN
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It’s called common sense
So, you based this on nothing. Got it.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:19 am to RolltidePA
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So, you based this on nothing. Got it.
No I based it common sense. Everyone knows it. You know it too. It’s okay to admit it.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:24 am to BOHICAMAN
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Well when you know what you’re demanding is something that the Iranian regime could never possibly give up it’s not real negotiations.
There's a big difference in the word "could" and the actual word you should have used, which is "would."
And it may not be "real negotiations," but that doesn't mean it's entered into in bad faith. Sometimes things have to be placed on the table even when everyone knows what's going to happen, even if it's just so that all proper notice is given.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:25 am to wackatimesthree
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There's a big difference in the word "could" and the actual word you should have used, which is "would." And it may not be "real negotiations," but that doesn't mean it's entered into in bad faith. Sometimes things have to be placed on the table even when everyone knows what's going to happen, even if it's just so that all proper notice is given.
If that’s the way you want to word it then fine.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:28 am to Bass Tiger
quote:no fricking shite it’s fricking Iran! Obama allowing them to enrich still the most reckless and ignorant foreign policy in my lifetime. He 100% knew what would happen, that they’d make a bomb and use it on Tel Aviv.
no intention of making a deal that would satisfy US demands.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:30 am to BOHICAMAN
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If Iran was vulnerable to a US attack and they knew the outcome would be catastrophic for the Islamic Regime they should have made a deal with the US.....they had to know they were not dealing with Obama or Biden.
Did you not notice how the “negotiations” started with nuclear weapons and then shifted to ballistic missiles? That Iran could not be allowed to “live under the umbrella of its missile systems” capable of threatening the region. There was never gonna be a deal. The only possible deal that could’ve been made was for the regime to up and leave Tehran and live in exile somewhere.
I think the issue with Iran's missiles were not the missiles for their national defense but the long range missiles developed specifically to reach Israel.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:30 am to Bass Tiger
Iran was death by 1000 cuts since 1979 for the US. Theyve deserved it since the 1983 Beirut bombing. Pay back is hell.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:32 am to Bass Tiger
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I think the issue with Iran's missiles were not the missiles for their national defense but the long range missiles developed specifically to reach Israel.
Sorry yes, that’s what I meant.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:37 am to BOHICAMAN
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I think the issue with Iran's missiles were not the missiles for their national defense but the long range missiles developed specifically to reach Israel.
Sorry yes, that’s what I meant.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:44 am to BOHICAMAN
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Honestly we were the ones negotiating in bad faith. We decided on this war in January at least. The Iranians knew this which is why they were “tapping us along” in an effort to build up their missile and drone stores as much as possible before hostilities broke out.
Giving someone an out and offering free nuclear fuel forever is not "bad faith." That is one helluva olive branch as a last ditch effort.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:46 am to Bass Tiger
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....they had to know they were not dealing with Obama or Biden
Well they know now, but they probably have other worries now, like ‘where da hell the virgins be, in all this smoke?’
I think human nature is such that you reach a certain level of arrogance that you are blind to reality. There may be a lawyer around here that is in that same boat
Posted on 3/4/26 at 9:00 am to BOHICAMAN
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Well when you know what you’re demanding is something that the Iranian regime could never possibly give up it’s not real negotiations. We gave them no choice.
So you are saying when you demand your wife's lover must stop tapping her but she won't let him that you walk back into the living room and sit in the recliner?
GOTCHA!!
This post was edited on 3/4/26 at 9:04 am
Posted on 3/4/26 at 10:56 am to kingbob
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Give me what I want or I kill you” isn’t negotiating in good faith?
How about when the lives of your children or grandchildren depend on it?
Left unchecked Iran will have nuclear weapons and improved ballistic missiles to deliver them here. This action Trump undertook was absolutely necessary.
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