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Second stimulus proposed is a $5,000 deferral of SSI benefits

Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:32 am
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:32 am
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A report in the Washington Post, however, has pointed to another proposal, one being made by the American Enterprise Institute and Hoover Institution and said to be under review by senior economists at the White House. In it, they say, households would receive cash, but not in the same way as they did with the previous stimulus checks. It would instead be a voluntary loan check of a value potentially up to $5,000, and that would be in exchange for their retirement benefits via social security being delayed for up to three months.


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The first payments at that point (after the age of 61), expected to be no more than three months’ worth, would cover the amount, before normal benefits resume thereafter. By electing not to take this ‘advance’ would mean retirement benefits remain unaltered.


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The key difference with this proposal is that it would not add to the US national debt. If people need the money then they would receive it now to get them through the crisis but, unlike the first round of stimulus checks, the repayment of this is already factored in a few years down the line. The argument put forward by Rauh and Biggs emphasises that the loans would be ‘collateralised with obligations owed by the federal government, interest rates could be much more favourable than a household or small business might find in the markets today'.


Serious question: Does anyone under 40 NOT opt-in to this, if it passes?

No guarantee SSI even exists when I get to retirement age and I could put that 5k in Amazon or something and get more out of it than waiting for the government to give it to me in 30 years
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66572 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:34 am to
yeah I think this is a better idea than just free limitless money.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21604 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:34 am to
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No guarantee SSI even exists when I get to retirement age


My thoughts exactly, I'd absolutely take it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422577 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:34 am to
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Serious question: Does anyone under 40 NOT opt-in to this, if it passes?

i was coming to post JG Wentworth-inspired SEND ME ALL THE FUTURE SOCIAL SECURITY NOW memes
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18080 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:35 am to
I'm 40. I would forfeit every penny of social security if they would stop taking it out of my check today.

Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
6507 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:35 am to
Hell yes, give me as much of my social security as I get get right now. I’d take that under any circumstance. That shite will be long gone by the time I’m supposed to get to it.
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39156 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:35 am to
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American Enterprise Institute and Hoover Institution



Enemies of the American people
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:36 am to
Yeah I'll go with frick that
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67101 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:38 am to
What would I do with a random $5k right now? I can't travel. I could save it, but that kinda defeats the purpose, no? I guess if I had to spend it, I'd buy my band a solid PA system and see if there's enough leftover to afford a trailer to haul it in.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
59109 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:38 am to
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yeah I think this is a better idea than just free limitless money.


Without question
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:39 am to
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What would I do with a random $5k right now?


invest it so it's a random 100k when you retire in 30 years instead of 3 months of ssi
Posted by TigerChief10
Member since Dec 2012
10858 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:39 am to
This would be a god send for me. I just got out of school and got a new job and moved but wasn't eligible for a stimulus check. Shits been tight the last couple weeks.
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
17481 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:41 am to
No.

Unnecessary.


Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
19987 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:41 am to
$5,000 is 3 months of SS payments?

Sounds like a lot of people not maxing out very often.

On a related note, how long before someone decides that people who have maxed out contributions (and therefore least likely to need SS) should get less benefits than people who have not?
Posted by BearCrocs
Member since Aug 2013
6450 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:42 am to
Social Security is joke. What does it pay.. $1500 a month? Who the frick can live off $1500 a month?
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:42 am to
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No. Unnecessary.


why say "no" to an opt-in?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73790 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:44 am to
I'm in on this
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11113 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:46 am to
100% would take that and anybody not close to retirement would be a complete moron not to as well. The money supply is up 20% since March. Social security is a zombie public program so the only solution to make up the gap in assets and liabilities is monetary debasement and debt monetization.
This post was edited on 5/12/20 at 11:47 am
Posted by BayBengal9
Bay St. Louis, MS
Member since Nov 2019
4171 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:47 am to
I would give up 100% of my accumulated SS "benefits" to this point to receive a $5,000 check.

That's $5,000 more than I'll ever get from SS.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32254 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:48 am to
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I'm 40. I would forfeit every penny of social security if they would stop taking it out of my check today.


But I don't want to have to go back to work.
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