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re: Seattle sugar tax
Posted on 1/9/18 at 1:20 pm to CM Tiger83
Posted on 1/9/18 at 1:20 pm to CM Tiger83
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So more handouts?
Tax break is a handout in this libertarian's world.
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Posted on 1/9/18 at 1:21 pm to CM Tiger83
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So more handouts?
How is a tax break a handout?
Posted on 1/9/18 at 1:28 pm to CM Tiger83
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So more handouts?
what does that have to do with what I posted? If your talking about tax breaks, those are only "handouts" in proggy world
In the USA we subsidize poor behavior and rhen turn around and tax these people extra on it?
Subsidizing good behavior with tax breaks(you keeping your money) seems more productive
When taxes and regulations become a burden, black markets arise.
Posted on 1/9/18 at 1:38 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I just not sure I can get on board with giving a tax incentive to help with the cost of a Gov’t handout. I would rather cut the handout, honestly but I just know it won’t happen. In a perfect world we would have a completely free market in health insurance without federal mandates as well as state regulation. We could even have foreign competition. Some people would be denied coverage if they get sick and didn’t have existing coverage but it is what it is. Not the most companionate system but it would be better than what we have now.
Posted on 1/9/18 at 1:41 pm to CM Tiger83
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just not sure I can get on board with giving a tax incentive to help with the cost of a Gov’t handout.
This is very confusing. What handout?
Posted on 1/9/18 at 1:42 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Who decides what is "good" behavior? The government?
Subsidizing good behavior with tax breaks(you keeping your money) seems more productive
Posted on 1/9/18 at 1:43 pm to Big Scrub TX
Common sense usually will take care of determining good behavior.
Posted on 1/9/18 at 1:45 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Who decides what is "good" behavior? The government?
Who decides bad behavior?
Posted on 1/9/18 at 1:48 pm to CM Tiger83
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this is the only choice we have
Pretty sure it's not.
Posted on 1/9/18 at 1:48 pm to CM Tiger83
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I just not sure I can get on board with giving a tax incentive to help with the cost of a Gov’t handout. I would rather cut the handout, honestly but I just know it won’t happen. In a perfect world we would have a completely free market in health insurance without federal mandates as well as state regulation. We could even have foreign competition. Some people would be denied coverage if they get sick and didn’t have existing coverage but it is what it is. Not the most companionate system but it would be better than what we have now.
You are so transparent
Posted on 1/9/18 at 1:48 pm to roadGator
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Common sense usually will take care of determining good behavior.
In general, things like non criminal behavior, valuing education and having two parents in the home should be encouraged.
Punishing bad behavior only encourages black market activity.
Posted on 1/9/18 at 1:49 pm to CAD703X
quote:I read one article that said Starbucks products are exempt from the sugar tax.
I wonder if Starbucks will start charging for sugar packets?
Posted on 1/9/18 at 1:49 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Who decides what is "good" behavior? The government?
The premise of this conversation is that drinking sugary drinks is bad behavior. Are you really that dense?
Posted on 1/9/18 at 1:49 pm to CM Tiger83
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So more handouts?
What handout?
Posted on 1/9/18 at 1:54 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Sounds like common sense. 
Posted on 1/9/18 at 1:54 pm to moneyg
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The premise of this conversation is that drinking sugary drinks is bad behavior. Are you really that dense?
Yah, sin taxes in general
Bootlegging cigarettes is serious business in NYC.
Posted on 1/9/18 at 1:54 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Exactly. Your pretense that tax breaks for certain behaviors being decided in some theoretical vacuum of objective goods and bads is nonsense is not an exercise in de facto subsidies is nonsense.
Who decides bad behavior?
Posted on 1/9/18 at 1:55 pm to CM Tiger83
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I just not sure I can get on board with giving a tax incentive to help with the cost of a Gov’t handout
Yet you seem perfectly fine with taking from people via taxation and handing it out to people who make poor decisions. I.e. healthcare payments.
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In a perfect world we would have a completely free market in health insurance without federal mandates as well as state regulation. We could even have foreign competition. Some people would be denied coverage if they get sick and didn’t have existing coverage but it is what it is. Not the most companionate system but it would be better than what we have now.
then advocate for this...not more taxes because "frick it"
Posted on 1/9/18 at 1:56 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Exactly. Your pretense that tax breaks for certain behaviors being decided in some theoretical vacuum of objective goods and bads is nonsense is not an exercise in de facto subsidies is nonsense.
What the frick?
The discussion here is for alternatives to existing policy punishing bad behavior
Posted on 1/9/18 at 1:57 pm to CM Tiger83
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I just not sure I can get on board with giving a tax incentive to help with the cost of a Gov’t handout. I would rather cut the handout, honestly but I just know it won’t happen. In a perfect world we would have a completely free market in health insurance without federal mandates as well as state regulation. We could even have foreign competition. Some people would be denied coverage if they get sick and didn’t have existing coverage but it is what it is. Not the most companionate system but it would be better than what we have now.
This is Pbhog level insanity. Do you think the government has a right to your money?
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