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re: Seattle sugar tax

Posted on 1/9/18 at 1:57 pm to
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/9/18 at 1:57 pm to
Never thought I'd see a black market for sugar.
Posted by Terry the Tiger
Cypress, Texas
Member since Jul 2009
3494 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 1:59 pm to
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It may not go to healthcare but sin taxes do work. That’s why the big beverage companies are fighting them so hard. It will decrease consumption for sure. If you stop to get gas and a water is $1 and a Gatorade or coke is $3. What will people buy most of the time. Not clue why the actual tax number are but poor people who consume the most sugary drinks definitely will look at the price difference.


Someone is naive. Guess who bottles most of the water? The soft drink companies. If my sales of $3 soft drinks are declining, guess what? I will make it up by now charging $2.50/bottle of water instead of $1. There is a reason why soft drink companies got into the water business.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260483 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 2:00 pm to
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Never thought I'd see a black market for sugar.


Maybe we will see a Seattle Sugar Party with gallons of Gatorade dumped in Elliott Bay
Posted by CM Tiger83
Lafayette, LA
Member since Sep 2011
738 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 2:21 pm to
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Yet you seem perfectly fine with taking from people via taxation and handing it out to people who make poor decisions. I.e. healthcare payments.


I’m not ok with that at all. I think Medicare is a handout and should be eliminated even though it would be huge mess for a while. Patlyroll taxes or premiums don’t cover the actual cost let alone all the supplements. At least by taxing sugar consumption you would be taxing the worst offenders contributing to the unsustainable costs not the wealthy that actually subsidise the costs for them.
Posted by CM Tiger83
Lafayette, LA
Member since Sep 2011
738 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 2:25 pm to
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Someone is naive. Guess who bottles most of the water? The soft drink companies. If my sales of $3 soft drinks are declining, guess what? I will make it up by now charging $2.50/bottle of water instead of $1. There is a reason why soft drink companies got into the water business.


Good for them, why would I want to hurt any business? If I’m forced to subsidise people bad health decisions, I would like them to be burndend as well. It kinda why I’m against legalization of drugs at the moment. I don’t give a shite what you do but if you make me pay for your unemployment insurance than I start to care.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35503 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 2:40 pm to
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absolutely absurd

but they voted it on themselves


Why? Why should sugar be exempted from Sin taxes? When it creates just as much a health care strain and crisis on our society as alcohol and tobacco.

The obseity epidemic is what's absurd.

As rates of sugar-related disorders such as diabetes, obesity and heart disease climb to unheard of levels in our nation's history study after study has shown that sugar is a TOXIN that your body was not made to process and has the same effect on lab rats on the brain as Cocaine.



Great article about how you'd be better off smoking two packs a day that drinking a 6-pack of Coke a day.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260483 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 2:43 pm to
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Why? Why should sugar be exempted from Sin taxes?


Why is it ok to use the government as arbitrator and enforcer
Posted by CM Tiger83
Lafayette, LA
Member since Sep 2011
738 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 2:50 pm to
It’s not ok just like it isn’t ok to make me subsidise shitty health choices. But thier is a better chance of getting a sugar tax than there is getting Gov’t about it healthcare.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260483 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 2:54 pm to
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It’s not ok just like it isn’t ok to make me subsidise shitty health choices. But thier is a better chance of getting a sugar tax than there is getting Gov’t about it healthcare.


So, principles just go out the window? If someone supports the nanny state, might as well go all in

This tax is a money grab that will make no dicsernable difference and create black market opportunities. It's totally misguided and policy based on emotion.
This post was edited on 1/9/18 at 2:57 pm
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83571 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 2:55 pm to
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Why? Why should sugar be exempted from Sin taxes?


what makes you think I'm for sin taxes at all?
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83571 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 2:56 pm to
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It’s not ok just like it isn’t ok to make me subsidise shitty health choices. But thier is a better chance of getting a sugar tax than there is getting Gov’t about it healthcare.


chances this tax reduces healthcare costs in Seattle?
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
35749 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 3:01 pm to
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Since liquor is made from sugar I'm surprised they aren't slapping this tax on it.


They already tax the shite out of liquor.

Eta....and tobacco and pot at the state level.
This post was edited on 1/9/18 at 3:27 pm
Posted by CM Tiger83
Lafayette, LA
Member since Sep 2011
738 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 3:02 pm to
No clue but if it prevents one case of chronic disease it’s d finitely a benifit.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 3:03 pm to
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chances this tax reduces healthcare costs in Seattle?


0.000000% Chance of that happening

Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 3:04 pm to
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No clue but if it prevents one case of chronic disease it’s d finitely a benifit.


It won't.
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
22775 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 3:04 pm to
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So, principles just go out the window? If someone supports the nanny state, might as well go all in


Is CM Tiger to sugar what JJDoc is to weed? Is that what's going on here?
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83571 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 3:04 pm to
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No clue but if it prevents one case of chronic disease it’s d finitely a benifit.


why not take it further and outlaw sugary drinks?


Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 3:06 pm to
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why not take it further and outlaw sugary drinks?


Does it affect ALL sugary drinks? Or only those sweetened with natural sugar?

Would Milo's sweet tea, for example, be taxed, but Milo's calorie free sweet tea be exempt?

Or is it more of a "stuff that tastes sweet" tax?
This post was edited on 1/9/18 at 3:07 pm
Posted by CM Tiger83
Lafayette, LA
Member since Sep 2011
738 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 3:12 pm to
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Is CM Tiger to sugar what JJDoc is to weed? Is that what's going on here?


No clue who JDoc is but chronic disease the biggest threat to the us budget we face and I’m definitely on board with sugar being the biggest cause.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83571 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 3:13 pm to
so lets outlaw sugar

wouldn't that be far more effective than a tax?
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