Started By
Message

re: SCOTUS refuses to hear Challenge to Maryland ban on AR-15s

Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:36 pm to
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
20185 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:36 pm to
quote:

snarkiness aside... what exactly is it that he's attempting to say? And, obviously, not doing a very good job of...


Right. It seems he’s arguing that they should be legal/protected, but then refused to hear the case about them being illegal?
Posted by prouddawg
Member since Sep 2024
4442 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:37 pm to
This was the opportunity to tell states that under the Constitution, they have no right to limit citizens’ rights to possess “the musket of the day.” This is a huge disappointment.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
107731 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:42 pm to
quote:

“This case primarily concerns Maryland’s ban on the AR–15, a semi-automatic rifle. Americans today possess an estimated 20 to 30 million AR–15s. And AR–15s are legal in 41 of the 50 States, meaning that the States such as Maryland that prohibit AR–15s are something of an outlier.



So, what other things are we going to allow some states to violate the Constitution on as long as most follow it on such issue? What's the tipping point number of states that would actually make it Constitutionaly violative?

What a bizarre construct!
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
10596 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 9:58 pm to
quote:

hope Trump doesn't get to pick the next


Would you prefer Trump pick, or JD?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
120745 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:05 pm to
quote:

Gorsuch is solid.


Unless the case is about transfags.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
28662 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 1:07 am to
The problem with understanding what Justice Kavanaugh was saying is that the Breitbart writer fricked it all up and left out the parts that made the incongruent statement vs his vote make sense.

I don't have the time to explain right now but if anyone is interested go read about the decision on say SCOTUSblog where they actually know what they are talking about.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452700 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 7:06 am to
quote:

From what I gathered with what is happening, they are waiting on the numerous cases in the circuit courts to work their way through before taking it on and settling it.

Yes. They just used a selective quote and ignored the meat of what he said.

This is what you expect from your typical dishonest brokers who rely on rage bait, like Breitbart.

quote:

In short, under this Court’s precedents, the Fourth Circuit’s decision is questionable. Although the Court today denies certiorari, a denial of certiorari does not mean that the Court agrees with a lower-court decision or that the issue is not worthy of review. The AR–15 issue was recently decided by the First Circuit and is currently being considered by several other Courts of Appeals. See Capenv. Campbell, 134 F. 4th 660 (CA1 2025); see also, e.g., National Assn. for Gun Rights v. Lamont, 685 F. Supp. 3d 63 (Conn. 2023), appeal pending, No. 23–1162 (CA2); Association of N. J. Rifle & Pistol Clubs, Inc. v. Platkin, 742 F. Supp. 3d 421 (NJ 2024), appeal pending, No. 24–2415 (CA3); Viramontes v. County of Cook, No. 1:21–cv–4595 (ND Ill., Mar. 1, 2024), appeal pending, No. 24–1437 (CA7); Miller v. Bonta, 699 F. Supp. 3d 956 (SD Cal. 2023), appeal pending, No. 23–2979 (CA9). Opinions from other Courts of Appeals should assist this Court’s ultimate decisionmaking on the AR–15 issue. Additional petitions for certiorari will likely be before this Court shortly and, in my view, this Court should and presumably will address the AR–15 issue soon, in the next Term or two


There was already a thread on this June 2
This post was edited on 6/5/25 at 7:08 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452700 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 7:12 am to
quote:

The problem with understanding what Justice Kavanaugh was saying is that the Breitbart writer fricked it all up and left out the parts that made the incongruent statement vs his vote make sense.

Yes.

Kav was basically signaling that the AR is going to fall under Heller, but there are multiple cases working through and once those appellate cases apply for writs, it will be taken up and he's telegraphing how he'll vote (to overturn the state bans).

But Breitbart can't make any money off that take.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
19832 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 7:22 am to
Floslo coming through again. You know this board is slowly starting to appreciate you.

Upvote deployed.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452700 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 7:26 am to
In a sane world, it shouldn't be very difficult to display value compared to something as worthless as Breitbart
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
25201 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 7:29 am to
Did some AR shooting this past weekend. It was fun.

Not a single person was harmed. Nor animal...as no hogs were spotted.
Posted by rattlebucket
SELA
Member since Feb 2009
12213 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 7:31 am to
Come and take it
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59694 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 7:50 am to
quote:

under Heller, but there are multiple cases working through and once those appellate cases apply for writs, it will be taken up and he's telegraphing how he'll vote (to overturn the state bans). But Breitbart can't make any money off that take.


What’s the value in waiting?

I know the harm. It’s an unconstitutional ban.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452700 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 7:59 am to
quote:

What’s the value in waiting?

Typically to create a wider ruling based on idiosyncratic underlying laws and to decide circuit splits, etc.

The Supreme Court only looks at the underlying record of the legal argument, so having multiple appellate decisions in conflict basically sets the stage for the briefing/argument before the Supreme Court. Also, you'll have multiple trial court records with differing testimony, evidence, etc.

Making a ruling based on more laws (with a similar nucleus) and more appellate decisions leads to more of a universal result.
first pageprev pagePage 2 of 2Next pagelast page
refresh

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on X, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookXInstagram