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re: SCOTUS (9-0): You can now own firearms and weed without reprecussions...
Posted on 6/18/26 at 10:52 am to Squirrelmeister
Posted on 6/18/26 at 10:52 am to Squirrelmeister
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If someone is too dangerous that they shouldn’t be trusted with a gun, then that dangerous criminal should be in prison or executed. Once he’s back in society, he should have all his rights restored.
I have no real problem with restricting the rights of parolees who are only conditionally "back in society".
And it seems hard to separate gun rights from voting rights when it comes to restoration after a felony conviction.
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Posted on 6/18/26 at 10:53 am to Squirrelmeister
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Even someone with a historical of violence or criminal activity is still a citizen. They still have the right to free speech, still have the right to be free of unreasonable searches and seizures. Well then they should have all their rights. If someone is too dangerous that they shouldn’t be trusted with a gun, then that dangerous criminal should be in prison or executed. Once he’s back in society, he should have all his rights restored.
I agree 100%.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 10:53 am to Marlboro Smooth
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If you are too risky to have a gun you should be locked up anyways.
Not how our judicial system works. People are often afforded a second and third chance even if they are in categories with the highest chance to reoffend.
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If you are off paper you should have rights restored.
There is a system in place to try to get your rights restiored but there is a understood violence cut off which kicks in at class C or higher. Class C includes things like grand theft, involuntary manslaughter, or assault with a deadly weapon.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 10:54 am to stout
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prescribed SSRIs
Side effects are suicidal thoughts.
If anything I'd rather ban guns from people on this than hunter the crack head.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 10:55 am to shinerfan
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I have no real problem with restricting the rights of parolees who are only conditionally "back in society".
They are still carrying out a sentence, so I agree.
I don't think voting rights should ever be restricted. At least, I haven't thought of a situation where I believe denying voting rights is justifiable yet.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 10:55 am to Squirrelmeister
This is the only reasonable response to the gun control argument.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 10:58 am to 4cubbies
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We don't need to create additional laws that apply only to them.
Statistically, 66% of all felons are rearrested within 3 years, and 82% reoffend within 10 years.
The additional laws that apply to them are easily avoidable if they don't reoffend. Also, those additional laws only exist due to the high probability that they will reoffend.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 10:59 am to finchmeister08
9-0. I'll bet this tied the left wing of the court in knots. Do we support a marajuana user even if it means supporting 2A rights?
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:03 am to Squirrelmeister
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hey still have the right to free speech
No one ever loses this, even when in jail, but the SC and numerous courts have all upheld that threatening speech is not protected, aka it is a conditional right.
The same with the 2A as I posted above you. Both are conditional rights until they threaten public safety or the rights of others.
It is reasonable to assume that felons are a threat to public safety based on the high rate at which they reoffend. See my other post on this.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:05 am to stout
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Not how our judicial system works. People are often afforded a second and third chance even if they are in categories with the highest chance to reoffend.
This law doesn't actually prevent people from owning guns, though.
I think I might be one of the only people in New Orleans who doesn't own a gun at this point.
If someone is so dangerous that society believes they cannot be trusted with constitutional rights, perhaps they should still be incarcerated or supervised. If they are free members of society, we should punish future crimes rather than permanently restricting rights based on past crimes.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:06 am to stout
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Statistically, 66% of all felons are rearrested within 3 years, and 82% reoffend within 10 years.
And I can almost garuantee that 0% of them reoffend by only being in possession of a firearm.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:12 am to 4cubbies
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If someone is so dangerous that society believes they cannot be trusted with constitutional rights
Again, the 2A is a conditional right. All constitutional rights are conditional. Otherwise, we would be a lawless society.
The only rights the Constitution sees as inalienable rights are defined as you have heard 1000 times, “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness,” and the Government can still take away your liberty with due process.
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If they are free members of society, we should punish future crimes rather than permanently restricting rights based on past crimes.
That's just absurd
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:13 am to finchmeister08
BASED!!
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:14 am to finchmeister08
This was a pretty obvious one. Happy to see a 9-0, and I really like reading Gorsuch's opinions.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:15 am to stout
quote:Those conditions are also conditional, though. They were applied after the Constitution was ratified and are subject to change depending on the Supreme Court.
Again, the 2A is a conditional right. All constitutional rights are conditional.
quote:why?
That's just absurd
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:16 am to 4cubbies
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And I can almost garuantee that 0% of them reoffend by only being in possession of a firearm.
A simple Google search shows that reoffending with firearm possession alone is 4%, but 45% of those who reoffend were carrying a firearm at the time
Neither of those supports your argument, and the latter only reinforces why they shouldn't have their gun rights automatically restored.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:19 am to Timeoday
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Neil Gorsuch wrote the opinion that really opened the door for so many who are deprived unconstitutionally, especially the non-violent felon. This is an outstanding decision for all who wish to own guns and are not "violent".
Gorsuch well on the way to GOAT status.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:22 am to lionward2014
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Neil Gorsuch wrote the opinion that really opened the door for so many who are deprived unconstitutionally, especially the non-violent felon. This is an outstanding decision for all who wish to own guns and are not "violent".
Gorsuch well on the way to GOAT status.
As I stated earlier, classes D and E can already seek to have their gun rights restored. This ruling will make the process less cumbersome for them, hopefully.
Class C is the violent cutoff he is referring to.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:27 am to stout
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As I stated earlier, classes D and E can already seek to have their gun rights restored. This ruling will make the process less cumbersome for them, hopefully.
Class C is the violent cutoff he is referring to.
I should have cut the quoted part off earlier, was more pointing out how great Gorsuch has been. He's done more for more libertarian leaning people than any elected official maybe ever has.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:32 am to stout
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A simple Google search shows that reoffending with firearm possession alone is 4%, but 45% of those who reoffend were carrying a firearm at the time
Neither of those supports your argument, and the latter only reinforces why they shouldn't have their gun rights automatically restored.
This supports my point that the law doesn't actually prevent felons from being in possession of firearms and serves primarily as a sentencing tool.
This post was edited on 6/18/26 at 11:33 am
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