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re: Science is debunking itself again
Posted on 9/20/23 at 3:43 pm to titmouse
Posted on 9/20/23 at 3:43 pm to titmouse
quote:quote:
"Our" Big Bang theory is incorrect. Most people know this, they just do not have anything better to offer.
It is much easier to believe a "God" story of creation, than the Big Bang, however the disbelief in a God is a religion itself to many.
You realize Big Bang was first theorized by a priest right?
Genesis 1:3 was the first mention of the Big Bang.
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Posted on 9/20/23 at 3:44 pm to TrueTiger
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'm swayed by the mathematical odds myself.
Put side by side the odds favor simulation over evolution. Math is one of the more objective and reliable of the science so it seems reasonable.
where are you getting the numbers on this comparison? Ive heard folks claim the odds are more likely we are in a simulation but what does that have to do with evolution. The simulation is our perception of reality.
This post was edited on 9/20/23 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 9/20/23 at 3:52 pm to TrueTiger
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I'm swayed by the mathematical odds myself.
Put side by side the odds favor simulation over evolution. Math is one of the more objective and reliable of the science so it seems reasonable.
Just a warning. Math can be manipulated too by the inclusion of indeterminate forms to make the model work. Sometimes it only takes one step to make the model work. IIRC String Theory model has this weakness. What I mean by "work" is the model matches nature or the data obtained though experiment matches the model.
This post was edited on 9/20/23 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 9/20/23 at 4:00 pm to RobbBobb
quote:You don't really understand what you're reading. Where did the progenitors of Neanderthal arise? How about the Cro-magnon with whom they apparently interbred? The fact that groups from Africa might return to Africa thousands of years later should not be surprising.
This is the first time we can detect the actual signal of Neanderthal ancestry in Africans,” said Lu Chen, a postdoctoral research associate at Princeton’s Lewis-Sigler Institute for Integrative Genomics (LSI) and a co-author of a new paper that published Thursday in the journal Cell.
quote:All of which translate to "fittest." Does this imbecile propose the world's strongest bull elephant would be the "fittest" animal in Antarctica? That is retarded! Sorry, but come on!
On the contrary, it can mean anything from the best camouflaged or the most fecund to the cleverest or the most cooperative. Cooperation is an incredibly successful survival strategy.
quote:I guess that depends on what "we thought." We think somatic mutation rates vary considerably across regions of the genome. However, out of all foci, the rate of human nucleotide substitution is estimated to be 1 in 100,000,000 per generation, or about 30 per gametic cell.
Nature: Why mutation is not as random as we thought.
Given that, for example, and under the survival of the fittest pretext, why is SS/SC disease occurrence predominate amongst Blacks?
Posted on 9/20/23 at 4:06 pm to TrueTiger
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the theory of evolution.
"Evolution" is not a theory, it is observed fact.
Evolution just means change, and the fact that we see evidence of many other creatures in the geologic record that no longer exist means that life forms have changed over time.
There are several theories as to what has caused this change. Some people theorize that God did it. One rather pious man came up with the theory that life forms have changed over time due to NATURAL SELECTION - which he proceeded to describe in his writings.
To be clear the theory is, "Evolution through natural selection", not just "Muh, evolution".
Since the publication of Origin of Species, further genetic research has provided supporting evidence for his theory that life forms have changed over time by natural selection.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 4:08 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:Well that's not true. But let's assume it was.
There is no evidence of evolution as the origin of our species. It's done. Over.
Is there evidence of evolution as the origin of any species?
Posted on 9/20/23 at 4:08 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:100% FALSE!!!
"Evolution" is not a theory
Posted on 9/20/23 at 4:13 pm to NC_Tigah
Finish reading the post.
Life forms have changed over time. It is fact.
Life forms have changed over time. It is fact.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 4:19 pm to Mo Jeaux
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You think evolution will be “debunked”?
Not sure what you are asking.
If your question is a serious one
The simple answer is yes.
Many scientists continue to move the goal posts
The theory of evolution
Is nothing more than a theory
As many theories have been debunked
Posted on 9/20/23 at 4:25 pm to Rohan Gravy
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As many theories have been debunked
Including Sir Isaac Newton's theory of gravity.
That doesn't mean gravity doesn't exist...
...just ask my ex-wife.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 4:27 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:Evolution is theory.
Life forms have changed over time. It is fact.
When something in science is fact, e.g., the amount of dissolved gas in a liquid is directly proportional to its partial pressure above the liquid, it is referred to as Scientific Law.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 4:28 pm to Mo Jeaux
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This post was edited on 9/20/23 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 9/20/23 at 4:30 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:Correct. It means explanations for related observations might change.
That doesn't mean gravity doesn't exist...
Posted on 9/20/23 at 4:30 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Evolution is theory.
Wrong, READ THE WHOLE frickING POST.
You quite obviously have jumped the gun on this one.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 4:31 pm to NC_Tigah
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Correct. It means explanations for related observations might change.
Exactly, evolution is like gravity.
Theory comes in to explain how it works.
You still didn't read my whole post, did you?
Posted on 9/20/23 at 4:37 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:
You still didn't read my whole post, did you?
quote:Yes.
You still didn't read my whole post, did you?
Perhaps you don't understand what you wrote?
You were responding to a post about the Theory of Evolution, not the concept of intra-species change.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 4:39 pm to GumboPot
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It seems that all "scientific" theories about creation defy the 1st law of thermo and require at least one miracle.
True. No matter how far you go back, at some point something had to come from nothing.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 4:43 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:
Life forms have changed over time. It is fact.
If you are talking about humans getting taller or losing hair ... absolutely but I am not a believer that a monkey became a human.
That type of "new species" evolution has not ever been found to my knowledge
Posted on 9/20/23 at 4:45 pm to NC_Tigah
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the Theory of Evolution
There's no such thing.
There is, however, the theory of evolution through natural selection.
If you're denying that life forms have changed on Earth over time, I don't know what to tell you. The question is what is the mechanism for that change. That's where theories come in, Darwin's being that it was natural selection.
But if Darwin's theory is proved wrong, that doesn't mean that there's no such thing as evolution, it just mean that evolution wasn't driven by natural selection as Darwin had theorized.
After all, Newton's theory of how gravity works has been proven wrong, but that doesn't mean gravity itself doesn't exist.
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