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re: "Schools should've stayed segregated." (long)
Posted on 3/20/18 at 10:29 am to wartiger2004
Posted on 3/20/18 at 10:29 am to wartiger2004
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Yeah like we aint gonna call ya Eddie
My son stole that name now
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 10:35 am to flyAU
One point that you may have missed (I quit reading the convo after five minutes so maybe you didn’t), was that segregation led to situations where the white schools were well funded in clean, well-kept buildings, etc.; while the schools meant for black children were underfunded, in run down buildings without the resources to compare with the other school.
Separate but equal was the mantra of segregation, but in truth, it was separate and NOT equal. Desegregation had the added benefit of making sure all children got the opportunity for the same level of quality education.
Separate but equal was the mantra of segregation, but in truth, it was separate and NOT equal. Desegregation had the added benefit of making sure all children got the opportunity for the same level of quality education.
This post was edited on 3/20/18 at 10:36 am
Posted on 3/20/18 at 10:38 am to TbirdSpur2010
I found that thoroughly entertaining, thanks for sharing.
That said, do you know this person in real life? Are you sure you weren’t just arguing with Latarvus?
That said, do you know this person in real life? Are you sure you weren’t just arguing with Latarvus?
Posted on 3/20/18 at 10:41 am to Volatile
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One point that you may have missed (I quit reading the convo after five minutes so maybe you didn’t), was that segregation led to situations where the white schools were well funded in clean, well-kept buildings, etc.; while the schools meant for black children were underfunded, in run down buildings without the resources to compare with the other school.
Separate but equal was the mantra of segregation, but in truth, it was separate and NOT equal. Desegregation had the added benefit of making sure all children got the opportunity for the same level of quality education.
Outstanding points, and I wish I hadn't gotten sidetracked and pinned him down there. That was the whole reason I went after him with the SCOTUS decisions. Missed opportunity
Posted on 3/20/18 at 10:42 am to funnystuff
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do you know this person in real life?
Nah, I'm friends with the guy whose post this guy replied to.
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Are you sure you weren’t just arguing with Latarvus?
There's ALWAYS a possibility one is arguing with Latarvus
Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:18 am to TbirdSpur2010
Hmm
Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:19 am to TbirdSpur2010
Schools should have stayed private
Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:21 am to TbirdSpur2010
bro
we ant reading that shite
we ant reading that shite
Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:26 am to TbirdSpur2010
1. Actually read the whole exchange. To me it was great to see different perspectives and read a dialogue that I will never be a part of.
2. Good for you for trying. All about planting seeds.
3. The mindset of the other guy is...disturbing. He never really laid out a rational case for his support of segregation. How prevalent do you think that mindset is?
Thanks for trying to change his mind and thanks for posting it here.
2. Good for you for trying. All about planting seeds.
3. The mindset of the other guy is...disturbing. He never really laid out a rational case for his support of segregation. How prevalent do you think that mindset is?
Thanks for trying to change his mind and thanks for posting it here.
Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:32 am to BigJim
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3. The mindset of the other guy is...disturbing. He never really laid out a rational case for his support of segregation. How prevalent do you think that mindset is?
Much more prevalent than I'd assumed the past few years. Kind of jarring to see it trotted out there in the wild, so to speak, but shite like that underpins the thinking of many black leftists, along with rhetoric such as asserting that black people can't be racist.
This kind of stuff comes from folks who are otherwise well educated, too. It's scary.
Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:33 am to TbirdSpur2010
I read this whole thing. I can't believe I did. So the other guy was black?
People should read The Color of Law and Jim Crow's Children. Those are great books about segregation, with details that are relevant to current discussions.
People should read The Color of Law and Jim Crow's Children. Those are great books about segregation, with details that are relevant to current discussions.
Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:36 am to TbirdSpur2010
My guess is the Joel Lucas guy just saw Black Panther and thinks that segregation would allow black people in the USA to create their own Wakanda. Also, according to him we only accept you here because we have an agenda!
Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:38 am to TbirdSpur2010
so your name is eddie?
Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:41 am to crazy4lsu
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So the other guy was black?
Yes, and older than me (which surprised me because usually the older generations at least have a deeper appreciation for the struggle that resulted in integration/civil rights).
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People should read The Color of Law and Jim Crow's Children. Those are great books about segregation, with details that are relevant to current discussions.
I've read the former awhile back, and need to add the latter to my reading list.
I feel like if such literature were more commonly read, we wouldn't see such inflammatory rhetoric in 2018. I swear you'd think we were a year or two removed from Bull Connor turning in the fire hoses the way some folks talk. It's sad because such hyperbole causes folks who would otherwise pay more attention to today's real issues with racism to turn a deaf ear to the whole subject after awhile.
Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:42 am to TigersHuskers
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so your name is eddie?
Yeah, I go by Trey though. Especially since my son's name is also Eddie.
Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:46 am to themunch
Race issues are just made up BS for the most part. Sure there are some true racist out there but it's not nearly as bad as the media and progs would like you to believe. It's all pretty much BS.
Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:47 am to TbirdSpur2010
Interesting exchange. I would have enjoyed seeing you challenge him on providing specific examples of how a return to segregation would be of greater benefit to the black community, especially when noting that generally the worst performing schools are poor and predominantly black (ie: already self-segregated).
You definitely had the better argument but you could sharpen your stance by resisting the urge to trade barbs. He seemed determined to drag you away from the subject by focusing on any barbs you tossed out (probably because he had no real backup for his stance other than "this is what I believe and what I want to believe, regardless of facts."
You definitely had the better argument but you could sharpen your stance by resisting the urge to trade barbs. He seemed determined to drag you away from the subject by focusing on any barbs you tossed out (probably because he had no real backup for his stance other than "this is what I believe and what I want to believe, regardless of facts."
Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:51 am to Bard
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you could sharpen your stance by resisting the urge to trade barbs. He seemed determined to drag you away from the subject by focusing on any barbs you tossed out
Agreed. I fricked it up
Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:53 am to TbirdSpur2010
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Yeah, I go by Trey though.
“Give me the gun, Trey. Give me the motherfricking gun, Trey”
Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:53 am to TbirdSpur2010
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I feel like if such literature were more commonly read, we wouldn't see such inflammatory rhetoric in 2018. I swear you'd think we were a year or two removed from Bull Connor turning in the fire hoses the way some folks talk. It's sad because such hyperbole causes folks who would otherwise pay more attention to today's real issues with racism to turn a deaf ear to the whole subject after awhile.
I agree completely. It's frankly unbelievable that books about the black experience aren't more widely read. There are a lot of wonderful, readable, academic works that dismantle certain notions about slavery, Black Codes, Jim Crow, the convict lease system, housing discrimination, and segregation itself.
There is also lots of great literature from black authors as well. The essays of James Baldwin are timeless to me.
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