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re: Say what you want, but this is hilariously ironic.
Posted on 5/4/18 at 8:37 am to CollegeFBRules
Posted on 5/4/18 at 8:37 am to CollegeFBRules
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Nope, they shouldn’t at all.
The ACLU disagrees with you.
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Posted on 5/4/18 at 8:38 am to Swoopin
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Do you plan to put an armed guard on ever street corner, and in every corner of every building?
No, and I never implied as much.
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Your natural born right to have the means to protect yourself shouldn't stop when you walk out the door of your house, should it?
No such thing as a natural born right to protect yourself. It’s instinctual, but what you’re implying is a man made construct. The only reason you see a gun as the only way to defend yourself is because others have them. Again, it’s a micro scale version of mutually assured destruction.
This post was edited on 5/4/18 at 8:42 am
Posted on 5/4/18 at 8:39 am to roadGator
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The ACLU disagrees with you.
Okay.......and?
Posted on 5/4/18 at 8:41 am to CollegeFBRules
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Oh, I know, “It’s the Secret Service that demands this, they’re protecting the Vice President,
And they have guns.
Posted on 5/4/18 at 8:41 am to Sidicous
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Damn that Freedom! just can't trust people to be free.
Why do we have laws? Why don’t you live in a society based on anarchy?
Posted on 5/4/18 at 8:42 am to CollegeFBRules
And their concerns are valid.
Posted on 5/4/18 at 8:43 am to CollegeFBRules
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But you’re dodging the frick out of this.
the frick I am
No paranoid schizophrenics should not have access to firearms.
Happy now?
OK now that we have the dumb-frick easy part out of the way...where do you draw the line?
Since you've already ruled out people on any kind of anxiety or depression medicine, what about people who see a counselor? No medication, just sit down and talk once a week?
Posted on 5/4/18 at 8:44 am to roadGator
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And their concerns are valid.
Okay, swell.
Posted on 5/4/18 at 8:44 am to CollegeFBRules
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No such thing as a natural born right to protect yourself.
Ah. I see why you're struggling with this.
Of course people have the right to defend themselves. Why wouldn't they?
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The only reason you see a gun as the only way to defend yourself is because others have them
What would you recommend for a 100 lb woman to use to protect herself against a 6'3" 280 lb unarmed man?
This post was edited on 5/4/18 at 8:47 am
Posted on 5/4/18 at 8:44 am to CollegeFBRules
quote:This is a sophomoric false dichotomy. And your OP is a strawman.
Why do we have laws? Why don’t you live in a society based on anarchy?
Posted on 5/4/18 at 8:44 am to CollegeFBRules
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Why do we have laws? Why don’t you live in a society based on anarchy?
I hear Somalia is nice this time of year, perhaps you should take a cruise and report back to us?
Posted on 5/4/18 at 8:46 am to CptRusty
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Since you've already ruled out people on any kind of anxiety or depression medicine, what about people who see a counselor? No medication, just sit down and talk once a week?
Depends on the reason they are there. Are the prone to insane bouts of rage and anger? Do they self-mutilate or want to hurt themselves? See, I don’t pretend the world is black and white.
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No paranoid schizophrenics should not have access to firearms.
So then you agree there are degrees of concern that need to be had. Where is your line? Because while you’re chest thumping and acting like I’m the one that has to define the line, you seem like you need to do the same for yourself.
Posted on 5/4/18 at 8:47 am to Sidicous
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I hear Somalia is nice this time of year, perhaps you should take a cruise and report back to us?
Exactly. The best societies limit freedom because, given to their own devices, people in the aggregate can’t be trusted.
Posted on 5/4/18 at 8:48 am to Taxing Authority
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This is a sophomoric false dichotomy. And your OP is a strawman.
No, it’s not in the least. If it was, you wouldn’t have even bothered to step into this conversation.
Posted on 5/4/18 at 8:52 am to CollegeFBRules
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Depends on the reason they are there. Are the prone to insane bouts of rage and anger? Do they self-mutilate or want to hurt themselves? See, I don’t pretend the world is black and white.
But the laws still have to be written. This means there's a line, so what is it? How do you define it? You are the one dodging.
Who do you trust to define "mentally fit"?
Once we start down this path with arbitrary requirements getting placed on our rights, then we might start having a discussion about who is allowed to vote in this country.
Perhaps there should be a mental evaluation for being fit to vote? After all, voting affects millions and millions of people. Don't want any crazies screwing that up.
Do you trust the Trump administration to draw up and pass a set of voter requirements?
Posted on 5/4/18 at 8:52 am to CptRusty
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Of course people have the right to defend themselves. Why wouldn't they?
Who grants that right? You instinctually defend yourself when threatened. That is an evolutionary response. It’s not a right conferred upon you by nature, it’s just a basic response to threat. You do it for survival, not because someone tells you it’s right or okay.
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What would you recommend for a 100 lb woman to use to protect herself against a 6'3" 280 lb unarmed man?
A gun is the only thing you can come up with? Really?
Posted on 5/4/18 at 8:53 am to 10MTNTiger
quote:And only mindless ideologues (on both sides of ANY issue) are too dumb to understand that the scenario which seems so “obviously the exception” to them differs only in degree from the situations that seem “obvious” to their opponents.
Only progressives are dumb enough to try to make a big deal out of the secret service saying you can’t bring a gun to see the potus and vp speak
Posted on 5/4/18 at 8:54 am to CollegeFBRules
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No, it’s not in the least. If it was, you wouldn’t have even bothered to step into this conversation.
I realize you cannot defend your assertions. Posted on 5/4/18 at 8:55 am to CollegeFBRules
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Who grants that right?
You clearly do not understand rights. Rights are not "granted".
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A gun is the only thing you can come up with? Really?
You have a better idea? Let's hear it!
Posted on 5/4/18 at 8:56 am to CptRusty
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Once we start down this path with arbitrary requirements getting placed on our rights, then we might start having a discussion about who is allowed to vote in this country.
This has happened LONG before the discussion on guns. You have arbitrary rules placed on you all the time - age to be able to vote, to drive, to join the army. Rules you have to abide by to stay out of prison. It’s all arbitrary based on the judgment of society. That doesn’t change because you’re talking about a gun.
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Perhaps there should be a mental evaluation for being fit to vote? After all, voting affects millions and millions of people. Don't want any crazies screwing that up.
Feel free to start a thread asking that question. However, it only proves the stretch you are trying to make. One person acting rogue with a gun can wreck the lives of a lot of people in one afternoon versus managing the coordinated voting patterns of all your crazy individuals over some protracted amount of time. There’s a huge difference, and I’m sorry you can make the differentiation.
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