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re: Say what you want, but this is hilariously ironic.
Posted on 5/4/18 at 8:57 am to CollegeFBRules
Posted on 5/4/18 at 8:57 am to CollegeFBRules
quote:We need the taliban here. They are awesome at imposing rules!
The best societies limit freedom because, given to their own devices, people in the aggregate can’t be trusted.
:dididoitright?:
This post was edited on 5/4/18 at 8:58 am
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Posted on 5/4/18 at 8:57 am to TigerMyth36
quote:That there is some rational, cogent analysis, it is.
shut the frick up you pacifist pinko commie moron
Posted on 5/4/18 at 8:58 am to Taxing Authority
quote:
We need the taliban here.
And I’m the one making sophomoric statements.
Posted on 5/4/18 at 8:59 am to CollegeFBRules
quote:I was mimicking you
And I’m the one making sophomoric statements.
:dididoitright?:^2
This post was edited on 5/4/18 at 9:01 am
Posted on 5/4/18 at 9:05 am to CollegeFBRules
quote:
This has happened LONG before the discussion on guns
The point, which you are insisting upon missing, is that handing over rights to be arbitrarily restricted at the whim of some bureaucrat, is a terrible idea and sets a terrible precedent.
You say you want mental health requirements for gun ownership, yet after several attempts to find out what such a law would look like, the best you can come up with is that should be considered on a case by case basis because the world "is not black and white".
Stupid. Yes of course we have restrictions on driving age, and voting age, and even firearm ownership age, but they are not enforced by whimsical fiat.
They are hard lines. They are "black and white".
Now, you tell me what the line is for mental health.
Posted on 5/4/18 at 9:11 am to CollegeFBRules
Not exactly ironic when it's not the NRA's doing. Just sayin'.
Posted on 5/4/18 at 9:12 am to Tiger Prawn
quote:Again, the difference between protecting these individuals and protecting the mayor of East Bumphuk, MS (or any kid in any elementary school in the country) is simply a difference of degree, rather than an actual substantive difference.
you’re too dumb to realize that the Secret Service security protocol has nothing to do with being hypocritical and everything to do with SS protecting high ranking government officials who cour be potential assassination targets for insane leftists.
Once we cease the ridiculous posturing and acknowledge this fact, we can have a rational discussion about the most-reasonable place to “draw the line.”
Posted on 5/4/18 at 9:18 am to ShortyRob
quote:You are overlooking the significan percentage of 2A advocates who insist that they should not be required to rely upon others for their protection and that they should be able to carry anywhere and any time for that reason. Maybe you do not have those folks where you live. We certainly have them in Texas.
I just think it's funny that the o p doesn't understand that wanting to be allowed to carry a gun in Normal public settings for one's own security but being okay with not carrying the gun if there are hundreds of trained professionals on site is some form of irony.
Posted on 5/4/18 at 9:21 am to Bourre
quote:I have always said that Pro-Life ideologues will find a way to inject “abortion” into a thread regarding parking tickets.
Except if it’s a baby in a mother’s womb, right libfag. frick those innocent and helpless, we have a right to kill them
Posted on 5/4/18 at 9:22 am to CollegeFBRules
Who are you people and why are yall so angry
Posted on 5/4/18 at 9:26 am to AggieHank86
quote:
You are overlooking the significan percentage of 2A advocates who insist that they should not be required to rely upon others for their protection and that they should be able to carry anywhere and any time for that reason.
Hmm...I almost agree with said 2A advocates, but I think this should be balanced by private businesses right to refuse access and service to anyone for any reason.
Posted on 5/4/18 at 9:28 am to NC_Tigah
quote:Not remotely ironic. People attain the emotional and intellectual maturity for different activities at different ages.
There are many actual ironies in the law.
E.g.,
Selective service age of 18, yet drinking restrictions in place until age 21.
Posted on 5/4/18 at 9:31 am to AggieHank86
quote:
Again, the difference between protecting these individuals and protecting the mayor of East Bumphuk, MS (or any kid in any elementary school in the country) is simply a difference of degree, rather than an actual substantive difference.
Fair enough, although I still insist my life is worth protecting. Even if you don't think I'm very likely to be assaulted, I still find the remote likelihood an unacceptable risk, and arm myself accordingly.
Who are you to say I cannot?
Posted on 5/4/18 at 9:34 am to CollegeFBRules
quote:The incorporation doctrine WAS a bad idea and should be revised. In essence, it impedes the 50 Laboratories of Democracy from serving that purpose.
When you go back and discuss whether or not you want to repeal the 14th amendment, I’ll have a discussion with you.
Posted on 5/4/18 at 9:39 am to AggieHank86
quote:
Maybe you do not have those folks where you live. We certainly have them in Texas.
Are you familiar with the term straw man? No? Maybe you shouldn't try to point out the logical fallacies of someones argument by using them yourself.
quote:
People attain the emotional and intellectual maturity for different activities at different ages.
OMG I LOVE Political Board intellects. Please share more of your in-depth highly specialized knowledge on this subject. Before you start, are you some how trying to insinuate that people reach an "emotional and intellectual maturity" for killing people before they do for drinking?
I'll hang up and listen.
Posted on 5/4/18 at 9:39 am to CollegeFBRules
Whichever ones fail to protect the most innocent and helpless ones amongst us.
Oh my! Worst case of hyper-compassion I have ever seen. Will you be identifying the "most innocent" and "most helpless" for us?
Oh my! Worst case of hyper-compassion I have ever seen. Will you be identifying the "most innocent" and "most helpless" for us?
Posted on 5/4/18 at 9:39 am to CptRusty
quote:At its most basic, every law on the books anywhere can be summarized as a balancing of rights. Without taking a firm stance upon limiting either suffrage or gun rights, I think we should all be able to agree that one person with a full-auto rifle can do more damage than the same guy with a single ballot in East Bumphuk.
Who sets the standard for "crazy"?
If I'm taking medication for anxiety, or depression, do I have my firearms confiscated?
What about vets or police with PTSD?
Do we also start restricting the voting rights of the mentally unfit, and if so, I again ask who makes that determination?
Posted on 5/4/18 at 9:41 am to AggieHank86
quote:
The incorporation doctrine WAS a bad idea and should be revised. In essence, it impedes the 50 Laboratories of Democracy from serving that purpose.
I completely agree, but I wanted him to realize the Constitution cannot be rigid. When laws that need to be amended are identified, being in the Constitution is a terrible defense to not change it or repeal it.
Posted on 5/4/18 at 9:42 am to CollegeFBRules
quote:
Say what you want, but this is hilariously ironic.
quote:
I mean, the fact that the president and VP are attending this convention is more than enough reason to ban guns.
The fact that you think that is considered "blah blah blah" shows your ignorance.
Not more important entities than the kids at any elementary school in the country.
You are trying to say a specific announced high-profile event by the second most protected human being on the planet (only the president is more protected) who has hundreds if not thousands of identified specific threats to his person and compare this event to thousands of everyday schools and workplaces in the country and say it's some apples to apples comparison??
Not only that it's more of a practical matter for this very specific one time event to announce no weapons of any kind etc etc than to do interviews security screening etc that could take weeks. From a practically standpoint alone for a unique one time event of course the secret service is going to enforce a rule like this.
This post was edited on 5/4/18 at 9:44 am
Posted on 5/4/18 at 9:45 am to bigbowe80
quote:
From a practically standpoint for a unique one time event of course the secret service is going to enforce a rule like this.
From a practicality standpoint, it would be easiest to ban all guns than have to screen 300 million people to identify the few that will go and shoot up a concert or a school or a mall.
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