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re: Sanders calls for Democrats to pass Medicare for All

Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:25 pm to
Posted by bcoop199
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2013
9640 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:25 pm to
Does that mean Medicare for congress too? If it's such great healthcare surely Sanders and all the other Dems wouldn't mind using it.
Posted by RohanGonzales
Pronoun: Whatever
Member since Apr 2024
15013 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:28 pm to
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Trump will sign it if people say nice things about him. All it takes to manipulate him is a few superlatives.


How edgy and original!

I hope the leftists do that and he fricks you dumbshits over forever.
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
4650 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:32 pm to
You don’t understand the problem at all lol good grief that was stupid. Let me break it down into words you can understand because I deal with it everyday: bureaucratic oversight and the fear of being sued adds an exponential amount of money to even the slightest procedure. You can’t give a Tylenol without going through several procedures and unnecessary steps. Then, you have the rampant fraud and delinquencies. Government oversight and control has increased medical expenses exponentially and so has constant litigation. Medicaid, the “free” government provided healthcare is abysmal in reimbursements. It would be an absolute disaster but you won’t listen like most people because you researched it on Google
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Member since Apr 2024
15013 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:37 pm to
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You don’t understand the problem at all lol good grief that was stupid. Let me break it down into words you can understand because I deal with it everyday: bureaucratic oversight and the fear of being sued adds an exponential amount of money to even the slightest procedure. You can’t give a Tylenol without going through several procedures and unnecessary steps. Then, you have the rampant fraud and delinquencies. Government oversight and control has increased medical expenses exponentially and so has constant litigation. Medicaid, the “free” government provided healthcare is abysmal in reimbursements. It would be an absolute disaster but you won’t listen like most people because you researched it on Google


sounds like you need to bitch to a lawyer

Where is the a-hole by the way? That prick would be gloating all over the board.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21876 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 8:54 pm to
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Yeah, but this puts 750K - 1 million people on the unemployment line


Oh noz.

This sounds like corporate welfare.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21876 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 8:58 pm to
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So maybe a trip to the hospital with a heart attack—that results in a heart cath and a stent—comes down from $40,000 to $8,000.


Considering the average family (in combination with employer subsidies) is dropping $30k/yr just in insurance premiums, that $8,000 bill (that happens what once every 10 years) looks really appealing right now.

We'd all be better off going to a hospital subscription model or a direct payer contracting cutting out the insurance company entirely.
This post was edited on 11/5/26 at 9:04 pm
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25996 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 9:04 pm to
Yep $1,000 a month comes out of my paycheck to cover my dependents not counting what my employers pays for half of my personal portion. N top of that I have a $15,000 per year family deductible and still have co-pays. Outside of a major surgery I would be drastically better off paying out of pocket for the four or five sore throat etc visits my family normally has
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21876 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 9:07 pm to
My question is- why aren't hospitals stepping up and saying "hey scrap that premium and just invest with us directly, and skip the prior authorizations, denials, retroactive clasbacks, disputes, etc, and still get the same or better service by cutting insurance companies out of the equation"?
This post was edited on 11/5/26 at 9:08 pm
Posted by Auburn80
Backwater, TN
Member since Nov 2017
10382 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 9:12 pm to
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We had a top bracket tax rate of 94% of income back in the 60’s, I know most here don’t remember, but we would need to go back there if these Dems want all their wishes


You could raise additional taxes from Corporations since they would lose a major expense category off their Income Statement. But you’re right about them wanting too much.
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Member since Apr 2024
15013 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 9:12 pm to
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My question is- why aren't hospitals stepping up and saying "hey scrap that premium and just invest with us directly, and skip the prior authorizations, denials, retroactive clasbacks, disputes, etc, and still get the same or better service by cutting insurance companies out of the equation"?


I used to hear ads about bill sharing groups when I lived in Texas, have not heard them since I moved to Alabama. They were vaguely relion-related.

When the bills can balloon up so large I don't know how those things would work.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
49613 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 9:15 pm to
I thought the Affordable Care Act was going to fix health care over a decade ago?
This post was edited on 11/5/26 at 10:35 pm
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
94450 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 9:16 pm to
Save u a sack of cash n keep your doctor!
Posted by Chip82
Athens, Georgia
Member since Jan 2023
2290 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 9:41 pm to
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I'm thought the Affordable Care Act was going to fix health care over a decade ago?


Just a week ago Obama was speaking about how the system needs to be tweaked.

When you have a portion of the Affordable Care Act healthcare pool getting free care or care at a highly reduced cost, the other percentage has to fork over the balance.

Why the average voter keeps falling for the Democrat lies is beyond the pale.

As one pundit just explained...

The voters just put the inflation arsonists back in charge.

This post was edited on 11/5/26 at 9:42 pm
Posted by selfgen
youngsville
Member since Aug 2006
1228 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 9:49 pm to
can healthcare be a human right when it requires another person to administer medical care to you?
what if no one chooses to practice medicine? then what happens to your human right?
i am thankful that people choose to study medicine, and spend money to become medical practitioners. no one owes me this. i expect to pay for such expertise. what other human right requires someone else to take action on your behalf and administer care to you?
is this a stupid take ? i mean what’s the government going to do if no one wants to be a heart surgeon? what happens to my human right? it’s not a frickin human right!
Posted by BrianKellysbuyout
Member since Nov 2025
2863 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 9:52 pm to
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Its campaigning to the dumbest voters out there and counting on them to be as dumb as you think they are.


The only problem is that there are enough of them that are that dumb.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
25675 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 9:53 pm to
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Outside of a major surgery I would be drastically better off paying out of pocket for the four or five sore throat etc visits my family normally has

Will they let you do that? Seems like no insurance, no good. Unless you get a concierge service.
I wonder how docs feel about Medicare for all?
Posted by AubieinNC2009
Mountain NC
Member since Dec 2018
7385 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 10:24 pm to
You could tax all billionaires 100% and it would only pay for this for 1 year (not adjusting for the hyper-inflation that would happen)
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