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San Diego's largest high school cut honors classes for equity
Posted on 4/12/22 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 4/12/22 at 9:21 pm
https://hotair.com/john-s-2/2022/04/11/san-diegos-largest-high-school-cut-honors-classes-for-equity-n461691
San Diego's largest high school cut honors classes for equity
Michelle Irwin, the principal of San Diego’s largest high school, has decided to cut many of the school’s honors classes. In an email sent to parents, Irwin explained she was doing this for equity.
The last paragraph is a bit confusing. The way it’s written it almost sounds as if the author is suggesting honors classes make kids into better students, thus inequity in who joins the classes is denying them that chance.
I guess that’s possible but, intuitively, it seems more likely this runs the other way. The students who already care about things like challenging classes, a higher GPA and getting into a good college (likely because their parents care about them) are the ones who will gravitate toward honors classes. The cycle of good behavior doesn’t start with the classes, rather enrollment in the classes is one more example of good students acting like good students. Getting rid of the honors classes won’t improve student behavior for the kids who aren’t interested in those things, it will just take an option away from the students who do care.
Principal Irwin’s biography does note her commitment to equity.
Were honors classes the racist hand holding some students back? It seems Irwin thinks so. Not surprisingly, some parents are not happy about the change.
It would be one thing if the school announced that it was only offering honors classes and that every student would be entered in these classes. But of course the faster pace would likely result in some students falling far behind which would be obvious and might even cause fewer students to graduate. So instead the honors kids are being asked to slow down to keep from stigmatizing anyone.
San Diego's largest high school cut honors classes for equity
Michelle Irwin, the principal of San Diego’s largest high school, has decided to cut many of the school’s honors classes. In an email sent to parents, Irwin explained she was doing this for equity.
quote:
Irwin cut the courses for equity reasons, according to an email she wrote to parents. She told parents she wanted to move away from “stratifying” classes and remove the stigma from non-honors courses. She has also cited racial disparities in honors course enrollment — a problem that is mirrored nationwide…
Latino students made up 54 percent of California’s public school students in 2017 but they represented only 43 percent of students who were enrolled in at least one AP course, according to the U.S. Civil Rights Data Collection. Black students made up 6 percent of the state’s enrollment but just 4 percent of students who were enrolled in at least one AP course.
A similar trend is happening at Patrick Henry, according to limited data presented by Irwin at a school council meeting earlier this year. White and Vietnamese students made up a disproportionately higher percentage of enrollment in Honors American Literature and Honors U.S. History, while Latino students were disproportionately lower, according to Irwin’s data.
The underrepresentation is a problem because enrollment in advanced courses is associated with a host of academic benefits, such as better attendance, fewer suspensions and higher graduation rates. Participation and success in honors and AP courses are also key factors considered in college admissions.
The last paragraph is a bit confusing. The way it’s written it almost sounds as if the author is suggesting honors classes make kids into better students, thus inequity in who joins the classes is denying them that chance.
I guess that’s possible but, intuitively, it seems more likely this runs the other way. The students who already care about things like challenging classes, a higher GPA and getting into a good college (likely because their parents care about them) are the ones who will gravitate toward honors classes. The cycle of good behavior doesn’t start with the classes, rather enrollment in the classes is one more example of good students acting like good students. Getting rid of the honors classes won’t improve student behavior for the kids who aren’t interested in those things, it will just take an option away from the students who do care.
Principal Irwin’s biography does note her commitment to equity.
quote:
While we focus on our teaching practices we must also focus on our equity lens. It is essential for principals to ask why things are the way things are. Until we have all students graduate with integrity, purpose, and options, we need to critically look at our systems and practices to find the root causes of not meeting this simple goal. All means all. Dr. Bettina Love once said, “Until we take the hand off their [our students’] backs that is holding them down called racism, bigotry and hate, they will not be able to rise.”
Were honors classes the racist hand holding some students back? It seems Irwin thinks so. Not surprisingly, some parents are not happy about the change.
quote:
“Parents who have the means to send their kids to another school are going to do so … because they’re losing faith that their kids will be prepared to be successful,” said Happy Feliz Aston, a parent of a fourth- and sixth-grader in the Patrick Henry High School cluster.
Parents are concerned that the course cuts will hurt their children‘s chances of getting into their preferred colleges. Honors courses boost grade point averages with a weighted credit, and college admissions officers consider how many advanced courses a student has taken…
Irwin and district officials argued that the advanced and regular classes share a curriculum and are essentially the same, so district officials said it was disingenuous to have one class labeled “advanced” and another labeled “regular.”
While advanced classes may cover the same material as regular classes, advanced courses typically go at a faster pace and often cover more material or go more in-depth into the content.
It would be one thing if the school announced that it was only offering honors classes and that every student would be entered in these classes. But of course the faster pace would likely result in some students falling far behind which would be obvious and might even cause fewer students to graduate. So instead the honors kids are being asked to slow down to keep from stigmatizing anyone.
This post was edited on 4/12/22 at 9:22 pm
Posted on 4/12/22 at 9:23 pm to Jack Carter
Sorry your unmotivated and slow students feelings being hurt
Posted on 4/12/22 at 9:23 pm to Jack Carter
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This post was edited on 8/25/22 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 4/12/22 at 9:25 pm to Jack Carter
Learn a trade, get out of that Marxist indoctrination.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 9:27 pm to Jack Carter
So equitable to make sure everyone is equally stupid. Literally shaking with equity.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 9:30 pm to Jack Carter
Equality to a leftist doesn't mean helping those on the bottom to reach the top.
It means pushing down those on the top so they are on the bottom as well.
It means pushing down those on the top so they are on the bottom as well.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 9:32 pm to Jack Carter
laughs in Harrison Bergeron
Posted on 4/12/22 at 9:37 pm to Jack Carter
So a HS Principal made a unilateral decision without the school board's approval.

Posted on 4/12/22 at 9:41 pm to HubbaBubba
School probably doesn't have anyone on staff capable of passing Calculus, much less instructing it.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 10:02 pm to Jack Carter
quote:
Latino students made up 54 percent of California’s public school students in 2017 but they represented only 43 percent of students who were enrolled in at least one AP course, according to the U.S. Civil Rights Data Collection. Black students made up 6 percent of the state’s enrollment but just 4 percent of students who were enrolled in at least one AP course.
A similar trend is happening at Patrick Henry, according to limited data presented by Irwin at a school council meeting earlier this year. White and Vietnamese students made up a disproportionately higher percentage of enrollment in Honors American Literature and Honors U.S. History, while Latino students were disproportionately lower, according to Irwin’s data.
Some races are over-represented in honors classes, some are under-represented in honors classes therefore... racism.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 10:05 pm to Jack Carter
2 more months till freedom from this place 
Posted on 4/12/22 at 10:19 pm to Jack Carter
quote:
Latino students made up 54 percent of California’s public school students in 2017 but they represented only 43 percent of students who were enrolled in at least one AP course, according to the U.S. Civil Rights Data Collection. Black students made up 6 percent of the state’s enrollment but just 4 percent of students who were enrolled in at least one AP course.
Just proof that you don’t have to have even a passable understanding of statistical analysis to be a high school principal.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 10:22 pm to Jack Carter
I wonder if the thought of making everyone take honors course, for equity, crossed her mind.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 10:23 pm to Jack Carter
Just call all the classes “honors classes”, problem solved. I’d rather that than denying intelligent students opportunities because of their race. Cause that’s what they’re proposing.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 10:39 pm to Tbonepatron
School administration tends to be the kind of shitheads they intentionally track out of the classroom because it is thought they can do less damage there.
Vice principals at a lot of schools in EBRPSS, for example, are typically used as enforcers for the principal rather than doing anything useful.
Vice principals at a lot of schools in EBRPSS, for example, are typically used as enforcers for the principal rather than doing anything useful.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 10:40 pm to Jack Carter
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the principal of San Diego’s largest high school,
Prob has a very expensive PHD and half the kids can't read on a respectable level. Meanwhile we're paying the new NOLA school super $300k to run a perpetually useless company/district.
I'm in the wrong business.
Lets be honest, I recall my grade school years. 1/3 the teachers were incompetent idiots looking for a summer off, 1/3 were very good "mean" teachers that I'm grateful to as my manners and habits are very good, and 1/3 were these ideological bozos that can't get it through their thick heads (and expensive degrees) that we don't need "good" ideas, we need some discipline and basic skills (balance a checkbook, speak in complete sentences, understand the time value of money, etc...). Stop going to conferences and help these kids!
Posted on 4/12/22 at 10:45 pm to tadman
how are blacks and latinos not seriously offended by these types of policies
Posted on 4/12/22 at 10:55 pm to Jack Carter
The dumbing down of U.S. education has a purpose. Truly educated citizens would vote for conservatives.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 11:01 pm to Jack Carter
Eventually we'll have people being admitted to medical school school with a 2.0 GPA from Grand Canyon University
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