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re: Sachs: "America hates China because it's successful"

Posted on 5/1/25 at 2:34 am to
Posted by RCDfan1950
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 5/1/25 at 2:34 am to
Does it matter to China if we ‘steal’ their technology? Do we or should we? Should Trump abandon Patent Law and mandate retaliation ‘technology steals’ like he does with tariffs? If they are a Socialist society , don’t they view all things as State owned? And therein if we should steal their inventions and ideas could we compete and win even with the steal?
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
24133 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 2:34 am to
We shall see how successful they are without us.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 5/1/25 at 2:35 am to
quote:

Does it matter to China if we ‘steal’ their technology? Do we or should we? Should Trump abandon Patent Law and mandate retaliation ‘technology steals’ like he does with tariffs? If they are a Socialist society , don’t they view all things as State owned? And therein if we should steal their inventions and ideas could we compete and win even with the steal?


Much more R&D occurs here. There's virtually nothing for us to steal from them.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
38767 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 2:50 am to
So if their form of government doesn’t view or respect personal property (ideas at the fore) as being personally owned , then they simply employ said free ideas and given their manufacturing power, make bank? It seems that the competing ideologies make ‘steal’ a subjective opinion? It further seems that Trump sees this and uses tariffs to force payment for the ideas/R&D. IMO, given that much of our population is spoiled and/or work dysfunctional in many respects, and free as well to reject work given the social welfare benefits, then there is no way we can manufacture products cheaper and more affordable than the Chinese? I don’t see how we win this battle unless all those hungry immigrants are willing to compete with the Chinese people. Something is really getting blurry here in my end, in respect to possible solutions.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
48142 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 4:17 am to
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stick their head in the sand

have you addressed their utilization of child labor and information control and religious intolerance ???

OR has having your head in the sand impeded your awareness of their atrocities?
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
48142 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 4:22 am to
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much of our population is spoiled and/or work dysfunctional in many respects, and free as well to reject work given the social welfare benefits

I think this is another blight on our record that Trump will have to address - another planned degradation of the American Spirit engineered by the Democrat evil over the past half century for the specific purpose of destroying the America of our founding and replacing it with another communist-styled oligarchy.

The Democrat party of today is an evil influence working to destroy any semblance of a moral or responsible basis in our society.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135706 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 5:54 am to
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but he makes some valid points
ORLY?
Where? Which "points"?
Because what I heard there was both semi-traitorous, and JoyBehar-level stupid. It was a cross between Natalie Maines' airheaded anti-Americanism and John Bolton's TDS. Sachs' anti-American, pro-CCP bullshite being closed-captioned in Chinese really was a lovely final touch.

Obama's 2012 comments dismissing Russia as a military threat were dumb. But THIS effing imbecile hops onto a foreign stage and makes Obama look like Winston Churchill. He honestly claims Communist China only became our enemy 10yrs ago? Really? .... and even then, only because China is a superior economy. Sachs is so "unburdened by the past" he's making Kamala jealous.

You were saying something about valid points?
Posted by HurricaneCamille
Member since Oct 2024
2108 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 6:00 am to
Thank you. That's the post of the day!
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
80219 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 6:03 am to
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if America could just get that slave labor back


and if America could steal intellectual property with no consequences.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66881 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 6:04 am to
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The CCP has made its position abundantly clear over the past 30 years, they want to supplant the US as the world's foremost superpower. The DC Uniparty/US Corporatocracy has assisted the CCP towards accomplishing their goal.

Really? The neocons we all hate seem to have the goal of protecting their full spectrum dominance.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42293 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 6:13 am to
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I think the right has a kind of hysteria/paranoia over China the way the left does with Russia.


I mean, concerns over China are legitimate.

Your false equivalency is…false.

Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
9638 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 6:18 am to

Correct, Americans hate Communists … except for Democrats

Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135706 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 6:19 am to
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The neocons we all hate seem to have the goal of protecting their full spectrum dominance.
You mean "protecting" vs a communist country malignantly predating on capitalists?
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62011 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 7:20 am to
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I think the right has a kind of hysteria/paranoia over China the way the left does with Russia.


Maybe because it’s a communist country that uses slave labor to build its products and is constantly stealing our ideas and technology. Besides that, they are great!
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74402 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 7:26 am to
Thank you for your input Fang Fang.
Posted by Reagan80
Earth
Member since Feb 2023
1885 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 7:33 am to
You need to do some research on the Chinese Communist Party before assuming they’re good and the USA is bad.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5935 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 7:42 am to
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He's going to be ripped as a China shill, but as I've said on here before, I think the right has a kind of hysteria/paranoia over China the way the left does with Russia.


First of all China >>>> Russia in every way that could hurt the US
Also Chinese culture is the opposite of traditional western culture

The gop wings of the Mike Johnsons, Lindsey Grahams, Tom Cottons still wrongly think Russia is a bigger threat than China because they make money off of Chinese dealings
Posted by eddieray
Lafayette
Member since Mar 2006
19070 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 7:52 am to
America doesn’t hate China, only the isolationist of America do.
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
25594 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 7:53 am to
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I think the right has a kind of hysteria/paranoia over China the way the left does with Russia.


How many Russian spies have Republicans been caught either employing or having sex with? How many Russian spy balloons have flown over the continental United States? Has Russia bought a bunch of land near our military bases? Has Russia released a virus that shut down our economy? Do they import fentanyl that kills over 100,000 Americans a year?
This post was edited on 5/1/25 at 8:07 am
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
1940 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 7:57 am to
china's household median income is the equivalent $4,811.61 a year. in 1961 when i was born US household median income was $5,700.00 per year of course adjusted for inflation that was 61k back in the day. sachs is nothing more than a chinaman paid schill.
success for china would mean increasing their domestic market and they can't as hard as they try most of china is still living in the stone age and china's problem is they've got india with a household median income of $2,200.00 and just as many people waiting in the wings saying hold my beer mofo.
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