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re: 'Rust' armorer breaks silence, blames producers for unsafe conditions

Posted on 10/29/21 at 10:42 am to
Posted by My Name Is Not Rick
Not California thankfully
Member since Oct 2021
224 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 10:42 am to
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She is obviously grossly incompetent. Baldwin isn't responsible here unless he was involved in hiring her.


I think you might be technically right but he's a total idiot for not double checking it himself, I don't care if the pope told him it was empty.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
36931 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 10:47 am to
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I think you might be technically right but he's a total idiot for not double checking it himself, I don't care if the pope told him it was empty.
Actors don't check guns as they aren't expected to be experts in handling one. That is why you have the armorer and assistant director, supposedly with specific expertise.
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
Member since Aug 2007
18639 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 10:56 am to
How the fuk does anyone think this tot should in control of the guns……
Posted by Sebourne Klein
Member since Aug 2021
576 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 10:58 am to
The ole bathroom stall background selfie.
Olan Mills missed out on a golden opportunity back in the day.
Should have offered this with their fences, bookshelves and plain grey backgrounds.
Posted by Rocky4LSU
Covington
Member since Dec 2007
534 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 10:58 am to
Actors don't have immunity from negligence. If you accept a role requiring handling of firearms, you should at the very least seek training of same. Actors do have a brain. But, it would seem, some lack common sense and a sense of responsibility.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116630 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:04 am to
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She didn’t know what she was doing and had no business being in charge of guns.


I don't know how many of you people worked around show biz folks but I did a lot of part time jobs with traveling productions coming in and local theater while in college. It was all backstage work in construction.
Those people are dangerous with a hammer or saw, much less a gun.
They are a mix of hyperactive, uncoordinated and stupid. It's an accident waiting to happen.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26241 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:07 am to
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Actors don't check guns as they aren't expected to be experts in handling one. That is why you have the armorer and assistant director, supposedly with specific expertise.


Rust is his movie. He isn't just an actor in this one. He is responsible for all the people hired.

He had a different armorer. But they left because of the unsafe conditions. So Alec hired her. Then he takes a gun and aims it at a person that is not acting in the movie and pulls the trigger.

There was ZERO reason for him to do that. In movies as a whole real guns are not suppose to be aimed at people.
This post was edited on 10/29/21 at 11:27 am
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
22752 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:12 am to
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So she’s not responsible for the responsibilities of her one job?!

This might get interesting.

She had "a job", but there's a ton of questionable info coming out.
Big thing being, she wasn't on set during this accident.

So, "her job" is to secure the firearms being used as props, but apparently SOMEONE ELSE had access to them, too.

I can fully understand her saying "hey, it wasn't on me". If she states that she wasn't there, she can also state they should not have ever been touching that revolver. Someone else basically broke into her gun safe without her knowledge, and removed something without her present.

This would be like if someone other than the pyrotechnic guy rigs up some explosives, then blows up a few people. You try to pin it on the guy whose job it was to do that, he will say "look, I didn't do that, I wasn't even on set. I have no idea why they would do that, but you ain't pinning it on me".

What's coming out is that somebody broke chain of custody; curious who that was.
Posted by CouldCareLess
Member since Feb 2019
3167 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 12:34 pm to
This is the same type of bullet fired from the gun Baldwin shot.

Powerful enough to completely go thru one person and into another.

Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62224 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 12:38 pm to
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She didn’t know what she was doing


Common statement when "diversity" is ever considered in hiring practices.
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18099 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 12:40 pm to
She looks like someone who spends so much time being "woke", that she doesn't pay attention to anything else.
Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
6945 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 12:41 pm to
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If you accept a role requiring handling of firearms, you should at the very least seek training of same.


So, you think Brad Pitt should have actually learned to drive a tank?
Posted by SkinnyTestaverde
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Dec 2009
401 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 1:03 pm to
Isn’t Baldwin the producer? His company hired her no?

So he’s responsible for everything. The hiring of said retard and not checking the gun himself
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
17604 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 1:11 pm to
Uhmm, Baldwin is the producer, and I have read, budgeted as well.

So, he is responsible.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
14762 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 1:22 pm to
Producers and her jointly and severally liable civilly.

Baldwin needs to catch a negligent homicide charge.
Posted by NOLAGT
Over there
Member since Dec 2012
13932 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 1:23 pm to
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26241 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 1:25 pm to
I have heard that there was a safe for the guns in a truck. She and some else both had access to the safe.

If she was not there, I can see her skating. But then again there are reportedly a mix of blanks and real ammo on the set. Not even kept separated.

IF this is her only boofoo then they MIGHT let her skate free.

EVERYTHING I have posted is third hand information and subject to being complete horse shite.

Some of the 'facts' have changed as this story evolved.

Regardless of the rest of the facts, IF Alec Baldwin pointed the gun at her for no good reason and pulled the trigger, then he should be convicted.

Of course there is no reason stopping more than one person from facing charges.
Posted by LockeNLoad
Omnipresent
Member since Oct 2021
235 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 1:38 pm to
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Some of the 'facts' have changed as this story evolved
This is almost always the case. The press circulates all sorts of "reports" that have very little relationship with reality ... in an effort to be the FIRST to report some juicy tidbit, to get the "scoop."

In the end, 90% of it is determined to be utter nonsense. Unfortunately, by that time the bulk of the population has formed opinions about the case ... based almost-entirely upon erroneous data.

And you cannot pry them loose from those erroneous opinions with a crowbar and a case of WD40.

Locke
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
22752 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 1:38 pm to
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I have heard that there was a safe for the guns in a truck. She and some else both had access to the safe.

If she was not there, I can see her skating.
I can see that too, and it's a just move.

Why, and how, are they accessing the prop weapons, when she is not there?

I mean-

AB: It's your fault! You handed me a loaded gun!
Armorer: Umm, I called in sick that day, chief. And just how in the frick are you getting into my locked safe, when I'm supposed to be the only one who can do that?
AB: Oh. We wanted to rehearse, and I kept a spare key to your safe. It's your fault! You should have been there!

I can't see them pinning this on her.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103094 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 1:40 pm to
Last story I heard was that someone put three pistols on a table and that the assistant director picked up one, declared it a cold gun, and handed it to AB.

$64,000 questions comes down to who put the pistols on the table and why the AD was sure they were a “cold gun” without checking it first.
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