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re: Russia or Ukraine shoots down Malaysia Airlines plane carrying 295

Posted on 7/17/14 at 1:38 pm to
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
13501 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 1:38 pm to
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How so?


Smoke trail, fire in the air as it was falling. There was nothing shown on the way down to indicate it had been shot down.

That, again, doesn't mean it wasn't shot down, but people immediately accusing it as a missile attack are jumping the gun.

Furthermore, the Ukrainians immediately claimed it was shot down, claimed to know who did it, knew the weapon used, withing minutes of it happening with no access to the site. That sounds a bit fishy, albeit not blaming anyone.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41557 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 1:39 pm to
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His cavalier attitude about twenty three Americans being murdered is just one more indication of that.


quote:

Cavalier? So going on with his normally scheduled appearances and day while we work to gather information as to what is really going on is cavalier?


But god forbid he continue reading a book about a duck to an elementary class.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85107 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 1:39 pm to
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Smoke trail, fire in the air as it was falling. There was nothing shown on the way down to indicate it had been shot down.


I just watched video of debris falling from the sky slowly
Posted by TigerLicks
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2003
11603 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 1:39 pm to
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@piersmorgan
Let me help, Mr President - it IS a terrible tragedy, and it's more probably mass murder of your citizens & many other nations' citizens.


quote:

@piersmorgan
President Obama massively dropped the ball just now. 23 Americans killed and he says 'it looks like a terrible tragedy' then back to jokes?




Posted by petar
Miami
Member since May 2009
5989 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 1:40 pm to
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Not tweet juvenile shite while holding the office of the presidency.


Serious question. Was it he tweeting it (or his official twitter tweeting it) or was it a tweet about him saying he went to eat from a third party like media source?
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
82662 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 1:40 pm to
Yep
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
59878 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 1:40 pm to
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Smoke trail, fire in the air as it was falling. There was nothing shown on the way down to indicate it had been shot down.

That, again, doesn't mean it wasn't shot down, but people immediately accusing it as a missile attack are jumping the gun.

Furthermore, the Ukrainians immediately claimed it was shot down, claimed to know who did it, knew the weapon used, withing minutes of it happening with no access to the site. That sounds a bit fishy, albeit not blaming anyone.



reports are that there is debris spread over miles of Ukraine near Russia. That is clearly an evidence of an explosion.
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9794 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 1:41 pm to
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Go do something productive, woman. I don't argue with other people's wives.


Coward.
Posted by petar
Miami
Member since May 2009
5989 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 1:42 pm to
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@piersmorgan


Is and will always be a hack. No matter the issue. I don't blame the president for not making a statement until he is fully briefed on the issue.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 1:42 pm to
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Social media is reporting that the rebels have found the black box.


It will be recycled IRS style in 3, 2, 1...
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
13501 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 1:43 pm to
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If the plane stayed in tact till it hit the ground all of the debris would be seen in one location. But the debris is spread out over miles. What likely happened is the missile hit the plane it broke it apart and the was a brief smoke ball at the collision. IF the engines or fuel tanks weren't hit than there is nothing that would be caught on fire till the engine for example hit the ground.


Not what several experts are saying. Furthermore, the debris information is no where near accurate at this point. You would see significant debris falling before.

Now, it is very possible it was hit by a missile, but assuming it did is another story.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
26492 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 1:43 pm to
Holy frick y'all are insufferable. Can anyone wait till we find out about these "23 Americans on board"?


ABC news just quoted Obama saying, this is a terrible tragedy our biggest concern is finding out if there were any Americans on board. Jesus something happened 50k miles away and this site jumps straight to Obama.

Edit 5k obviously
This post was edited on 7/17/14 at 1:59 pm
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
13501 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 1:43 pm to
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The Ukrainian government confirmed it was a SAM. Why are we debating this?


You don't think they'd say this immediately for the geopolitical benefits to them?
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 1:44 pm to
Attention poliboard: Someone's old lady has found her way out of the kitchen and onto a computer. One of you needs to regulate his shite and get his house in order. Her name is redandright or something.

That is all.
This post was edited on 7/17/14 at 1:45 pm
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90762 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 1:44 pm to
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Not what several experts are saying.
Link?
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. Furthermore, the debris information is no where near accurate at this point. You would see significant debris falling before.
What does this mean?
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
13501 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 1:45 pm to
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I just watched video of debris falling from the sky slowly


That was debris pushed up following impact. All experts are saying that is the case.
Posted by TigerLicks
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2003
11603 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 1:46 pm to
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Is and will always be a hack. No matter the issue. I don't blame the president for not making a statement until he is fully briefed on the issue.


The jackass in charge has the intel. Except when he fails to attend the daily intel briefings which is way under 50% in attendance. But of course our shithead in chief will lead from behind once again, because he's so disconnected from the job.
Posted by Vegas Eddie
The Quad
Member since Dec 2013
6067 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 1:46 pm to
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50k miles away




Geography wasn’t your thing….was it
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9794 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 1:46 pm to

You are a real internet tough guy.

And a coward.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 1:47 pm to
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@piersmorgan
President Obama massively dropped the ball just now. 23 Americans killed and he says 'it looks like a terrible tragedy' then back to jokes?


Piers Morgan, liberal Piers Morgan, actually agrees with redisright (and me) in this thread.
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