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Russia' bad maintenance the Cause?
Posted on 10/1/22 at 10:06 am
Posted on 10/1/22 at 10:06 am
Cliff's notes version
Poor Russian maintenance (which is in fact quite common) could have caused then pipes to burst due formation of hydrates in pipelines under pressure but not moving product.
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This brings something to mind that the problems with Russia's turbines may have actually been the damage to compressors themselves from not properly removing moisture from the incoming gas before hitting the centrifugal compressors.
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Poor Russian maintenance (which is in fact quite common) could have caused then pipes to burst due formation of hydrates in pipelines under pressure but not moving product.
LINK
This brings something to mind that the problems with Russia's turbines may have actually been the damage to compressors themselves from not properly removing moisture from the incoming gas before hitting the centrifugal compressors.
LINK
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Posted on 10/1/22 at 10:13 am to CitizenK
But the poliboard told me it was the USA who did this?? The US is apparently the only country who would have a motive to do this…
Posted on 10/1/22 at 10:21 am to CitizenK
Didn’t two separate pipelines fail at different locations? I find maintenance issue to be extremely unlikely.
Posted on 10/1/22 at 10:24 am to CitizenK
That’s funny. All the pipelines in the current war zone seem to be working. How odd.
Posted on 10/1/22 at 10:29 am to CitizenK
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This brings something to mind that the problems with Russia's turbines may have actually been the damage to compressors themselves from not properly removing moisture from the incoming gas before hitting the centrifugal compressors.
Posted on 10/1/22 at 10:35 am to CitizenK
It is possible that the loch ness monster swam to the sea through a cave passageway and destroyed the pipe line then swam back.
Biden already told us that he would do this before hand. But that is probably wrong. I am going with loch ness!
Biden already told us that he would do this before hand. But that is probably wrong. I am going with loch ness!
Posted on 10/1/22 at 10:46 am to JayDeerTay84
These were not operating and at the bottom of a sea in cold water. Nothing has been flowing through them for well over a month.
Posted on 10/1/22 at 2:45 pm to CitizenK
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These were not operating and at the bottom of a sea in cold water. Nothing has been flowing through them for well over a month.
They were filled with liquid natural gas. You know the stuff in the photos that bubbled up for days. There were seismic readings from Sweden that showed 3 separate explosions. A pipe that implodes (or explodes from internal pressure) is not an event that would create a disturbance great enough to register on a seismic monitor in Sweden.
Posted on 10/1/22 at 3:02 pm to LakeCharles
US did this. All about giving russian no leverage and keeping cheap Fuel to china.
Posted on 10/1/22 at 4:06 pm to CitizenK
Correct. They were safe from bombs, missiles, artillery, lack of maintenance due to said war, disruptions in service, air strikes, etc.
But this lonely sea pipe, also not their 1st underwater line, just blew in 3 spots because of maintenance……
But this lonely sea pipe, also not their 1st underwater line, just blew in 3 spots because of maintenance……
This post was edited on 10/1/22 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 10/1/22 at 4:08 pm to CitizenK
Maybe they should have called "CarShield."
Posted on 10/1/22 at 4:09 pm to CitizenK
One helluva coincidence that it happens now.
Posted on 10/1/22 at 4:20 pm to CitizenK
Sure...and Jeffrey Epstein really committed suicide.
Posted on 10/1/22 at 5:04 pm to CitizenK
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This brings something to mind that the problems with Russia's turbines may have actually been the damage to compressors themselves from not properly removing moisture from the incoming gas before hitting the centrifugal compressors.
Potato “may have” gotten 81 million votes. Iraq “may have” had WMDs. Lee Harvey Oswald “may have” had a magic bullet. “May have.”
Posted on 10/1/22 at 6:56 pm to CitizenK
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could have caused then pipes to burst due formation of hydrates in pipelines under pressure but not moving product
No shot you’re getting a hydrate in a dry gas pipeline.
Posted on 10/1/22 at 6:58 pm to CitizenK
Timing sure is suspect.
Posted on 10/1/22 at 7:15 pm to CitizenK
So this happened at the same time on two different pipes? You neocons aren’t even trying anymore.
Posted on 10/1/22 at 10:12 pm to CitizenK
I’ve dealt with hydrates before. 97% of what that guy says is true. The guy that wrote the article knows enough to pass the smell test but hydrates don’t rupture lines.
Also the “diesel” effect WILL NOT come into play here. I’ve studied that particular phenomenon as it relates to pipelines in depth. It requires a certain amount of oxygen to ignite and there is NO oxygen in those pipelines.
What that guy is saying just didn’t happen. For those that don’t deal with this stuff it sounds very plausible but in reality it just doesn’t work that way.
Also the “diesel” effect WILL NOT come into play here. I’ve studied that particular phenomenon as it relates to pipelines in depth. It requires a certain amount of oxygen to ignite and there is NO oxygen in those pipelines.
What that guy is saying just didn’t happen. For those that don’t deal with this stuff it sounds very plausible but in reality it just doesn’t work that way.
Posted on 10/1/22 at 10:16 pm to waiting4saturday
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No shot you’re getting a hydrate in a dry gas pipeline.
Gas is “dry” because you dry it out with a glycol system. If you send “wet” gas down the pipeline (gas with a high dew point) over time you can get a hydrate.
This is not uncommon unfortunately.
Posted on 10/1/22 at 11:08 pm to eitek1
I work in pipeline remediation and the amount of wet gas needed to form a hydrate large enough to create a seal in a 48” pipeline would be considerable. Doesn’t pass the smell test to me.
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