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re: Ron Paul: "Coup" Against America Happened In 1963 When Kennedy Was "Murdered By CIA”

Posted on 4/13/23 at 9:43 am to
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 4/13/23 at 9:43 am to
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And kids this is why no one takes Ron Paul seriously.


And please share your own credentials if you don’t mind?……
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
2288 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 9:44 am to
I agree with his CIA assessment but you do realize the Soviets were far ahead of the US in terms of missile production in terms of the space race which was largely based on information stolen from the Nazis? The US was woefully behind the Soviets when it came to Sputnik, and maned space flight. Eisenhower did not support militarism in space so the notion that Kennedy was somehow bucking the notion of a large industrial military complex when it comes to Paperclip is incorrect. He put Von Braun in charge of space flight for military purposes. Von Braun did not want to use space exploration for military purposes but was forced to because the US was so far behind under Eisenhower compared to the Soviets. If the CIA killed Kennedy it wasn’t due to his lack of support for the military complex or his support for Paperclip
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11090 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 9:47 am to
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If the CIA killed Kennedy it wasn’t due to his lack of support for the military complex or his support for Paperclip


Check out the timing of the memo and his assassination…




Article below is from 2012 (prior to 2017 broader “acceptance” of UAP and well before Q)

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna42704241

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Is that JFK memo to the CIA about UFOs real?
April 21, 2011, 12:01 PM CDT / Source: Space.com
By By Natalie Wolchover




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A story that combines UFO cover-ups with the assassination of John F. Kennedy is a gold mine for conspiracy theorists. And that's just what author William Lester says he uncovered while conducting research for a new book on Kennedy: a memo written by JFK and addressed to the CIA in which the president requests confidential information about UFOs. In the never-before-seen, top secret memo supposedly written on Nov. 12, 1963, the president ordered the CIA director to organize the agency's intelligence files relating to UFOs, and to debrief him on all "unknowns" by the following February. Ten days later, Kennedy was assassinated.


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Alternatively, even if the burned memo is fake but the newly surfaced memo is real, there are several perfectly logical reasons why Kennedy might have written it. Lester believes the president was interested in UFO intelligence for three reasons.

First, Lester said, Kennedy was concerned that UFOs seen by the Soviets would be misinterpreted by them as being U.S. aircraft behaving provocatively. This may be what Kennedy implied when he (allegedly) wrote, "It is important that we make a distinction between known and unknowns in the event the Soviets try to mistake our extended cooperation as a cover for intelligence gathering of their defense or space programs."

The second reason for Kennedy's inquiry could have been his obvious interest in space travel; at the time of his (alleged) writing, NASA was a new agency, Lester explained, and "the whole question of outer space and life in outer space was at the forefront of everybody's thinking."

Third, there was a natural concern about UFOs at the time due to a spurt of incidents thought to be sightings. In the 1960s, nearly everyone was interested in UFOs — JFK, NASA, the CIA and citizens alike.


What is really on the moon???
Who really runs our modern construct???
Who may be suppressing revolutionary technology???

*for the astute reader, there are other references in the memo that relate to current events/tech…
This post was edited on 4/13/23 at 9:51 am
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
2288 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 9:50 am to
Possibly but Von Braun was very interested in space exploration for whatever reason so were Russian scientists
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11090 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 9:56 am to
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Von Braun was very interested in space exploration f


My take,

Von Braun’s work, while effective within the current materialist construct, was a distraction away from exotic Nazi /SS systems that were being developed covertly. His mission was to lead the world away from this covert technology while destroying the system he was working in from within (Galen Erso, Rogue One)
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64421 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 9:59 am to
And the hit by Ruby seemed legit to you?
Posted by browl
North of BR
Member since Nov 2017
1571 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 10:02 am to
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What is really on the moon???
Who really runs our modern construct???
Who may be suppressing revolutionary technology???


If you know, spill it.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
22218 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 10:08 am to
Ron is always spitting the truth. It's a shame so many pretend they're not hearing him.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
24843 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 10:12 am to
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Then another in 2020.

2020 was just a highly coordinated and well executed return to status qou.

The coup happened in 2016, but it was a legal coup against the illegal establishment. They had to make it resoundingly clear that it would never happen again.
Posted by dr
texas
Member since Mar 2022
1110 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 10:13 am to
If you read the original treaty (not paraphrased or re-written stuff), it paints a different pic than what we are told


why did jefferson refuse to go? Look who signed it.

it's pretty damning, in my opinion

Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
2993 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 10:13 am to
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Ron Paul can't prove that,


Might be hard to prove Watergate, but I know it happened after Richard Nixon sat in the Oval Office with the CIA Director, in a recorded session, and told him he knew what happened to JFK.

But the fact the break-in and reporting all had ties to the Intelligence apparatus are just coincidence I'm sure.
Posted by jackamo3300
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2004
2901 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 10:15 am to
The "foundations" for what enabled this "coup" and made it easier than it might have been otherwise was the curious alliance of convenience between the C.I.A., the MAFIA, and others beginning right after the War called Operation Gladio.

Not likely that alliance had magically disappeared by Nov. of 1963.

Or did Robert Kennedy somehow encroach in any way on this "unholy alliance" by insisting on deporting the illegal immigrant Carlos Marcello to Central America.

Who at the time was solidifying his power locally, after having gotten his foot in the door as the driver for Frank Costello, a crime boss with the Luciano "family" during the height of its power.

Costello had a home here in Orleans.

Was it a move that the CIA just happened to take issue with?

Our own David Ferrie, a shadowy guy - who liked guys - worked with the local "former" FBIer Guy Bannister, along with the famous local lawyer G. Wray Gill in an attempt to block Marcello's deportation, which was unsuccessful.

Later, David Ferrie was the pilot who flew Marcello back to the states from Guatemala - clandestinely.

Ferrie, due to his personal compulsions, and the circles he traveled in couldn't have avoided knowing Clay Shaw.

Even though back in this country illegally, Marcello was never harassed again except for a sham, theatrical, State Senate investigation into Marcello led by our own Nat Kiefer.

The barely literate Marcello made fools of the entire Committee.

Early in the questioning, it became obvious that the members of the Committee knew just how far they could go in their very cautious questioning of him; and none of the questions put Marcello in the awkward position of even having to invoke "the 5th."

He sat there as seemingly comfortable as were he in his own living room among family members.

He even mocked the state Senate panel by mentioning his role as "godfather" to a young charge he knew; and once again insisted that his only source of income was as a tomato farmer.

One thing about Wiki, in their description of Ferrie, they make sure to establish that "Garrison alleged that Ferrie knew Lee Harvey Oswald, but that Ferrie denied that he ever knew Oswald."

In fact, Ferrie couldn't have helped knowing Oswald. Ferrie led the local Civil Air Patrol of which Oswald was a member.

Many have seen the revealing photograph taken here at our Lakefront Airport (Shushan) showing David Ferrie standing with his Civil Air patrol group, which includes Lee Harvey Oswald.

But there's another photograph, which has somehow disappeared, showing Oswald standing right next to Ferrie at the airport.

At least once, Ferrie claimed to be associated with the CIA - but that was dismissed by locals as just a little man attempting to be relevant, important.

He was another one who died conveniently within days after Garrison announced his assassination investigation.

Is there a point at which certain dots connecting just can no longer be regarded as coincidence or happenstance.


Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
2993 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 10:19 am to
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2020 was just a highly coordinated and well executed return to status qou


Under the guise and protection of COVID emergency.

They can't do the mail-in thing in 2024 without legal reprecussions. They have no emergency to cover their tracks. They should not have had those protections in 2020, but everyone up to the SCOTUS turned a blind eye because of COVID.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68362 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 10:19 am to
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And the hit by Ruby seemed legit to you?
Did Oswald request a change of clothes, delaying his departure, so that Ruby would be on time?
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
18033 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 10:32 am to
Nope. Before that. He just doesn't want to admit how deep the rabbit hole goes.
Posted by tgdawg68
Georgia
Member since Dec 2019
569 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 10:54 am to
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Smart man. The american train went off the tracks the instant kennedy died. I honestly doubt we have had fair elections since LBJ was installed.


Uhh, Kennedy himself was elected unfairly.
This post was edited on 4/13/23 at 10:57 am
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
10748 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 11:39 am to
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And this kids is why no one takes Ron Paul seriously




Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
5566 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 11:46 am to
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And the hit by Ruby seemed legit to you?

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Did Oswald request a change of clothes, delaying his departure, so that Ruby would be on time?

Two women coworkers saw Oswald in the stairwell and break room during the Kennedy shooting. Their testimony was suppressed and they were told to be quiet.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79759 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 11:46 am to
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Tmcgin


frick off Otto.
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
21856 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 11:47 am to
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Coup" Against America Happened In 1963
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Then another in 2020.




Another one happened with Nixon
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