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re: Rittenhouse lawyer says he believes jury is deadlocked at 6-6 split
Posted on 11/19/21 at 12:35 am to Malik Agar
Posted on 11/19/21 at 12:35 am to Malik Agar
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IF that is true, then this country is headed towards a messy fight.
The next major use of the US military will be against its own citizens.
Mark these words.
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Posted on 11/19/21 at 12:48 am to L.A.
You people are as bad as the liberals in not seeing this isn’t as clear and obvious as you think it is.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 12:51 am to L.A.
Take the people in the cases actions and switch their political affiliation and you all would be seeing this very differently.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 1:02 am to TheWalrus
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Take the people in the cases actions and switch their political affiliation and you all would be seeing this very differently.
You do realize the entire thing is on video right? It's almost like anyone with functioning eyeballs could see that Kyle does not deserve to be in a cage the rest of his life because he defended his against a raging mob lunatic felons.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 1:09 am to Adam4LSU
quote:Well, yes on one account (possible intimidation).
There isn't a single case in this country that should ever be televised or allowing media in the court rooms for reasons exactly like this.
No on a couple other factors:
without live coverage, we don't know the actual case. We'd be operating on our personal biases (and if we were being truly decent, trying to suspend them), and relying on whatever the mainstream media decided to feed us. Now, I don't watch much "news" at all, but my understanding is that they were portraying the trial in a FAR different light than what anyone actually SAW.
So without live coverage, a conviction wouldn't really bump the needle that much... not in comparison to what it would NOW.
if you came in open-minded, it was pretty solid self-defense by the time the prosecution rested it's case. Even if you had a bias but were willing to listen (as apparently the Young Turks chick did), it was a not-guilty.
The defense bumbled around with their case, but I don't think they incriminated Rittenhouse.
We KNOW that, having watched. We wouldn't, if it wasn't streamed.
The second thing that might come into play, at least after this case, is jury accountability. If there's someone holding out on liberal principle, I don't think they quite understand how openly bad it will look yet. Like I said, this should have been a quick deliberation, based on the evidence and testimony. If you cling to a Guilty on murder charges after that, after millions watched the case, you're going to be exposed as a fraud.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 1:12 am to TheWalrus
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Take the people in the cases actions and switch their political affiliation and you all would be seeing this very differently.
Yep, doesn’t change a thing for me. Don’t chase people with guns that aren’t doing anything to you.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 1:24 am to TheWalrus
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Take the people in the cases actions and switch their political affiliation and you all would be seeing this very differently.
What a retarded fricking statement. This case could not be clearer. There is video of everything.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 1:33 am to bisonduck
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Yep, doesn’t change a thing for me. Don’t chase people with guns that aren’t doing anything to you
Yup. Especially don't chase down and attack a 17 year old holding a gun if you are a serial pedophile that was released from a mental hospital a few hours earlier. What do you expect?
Posted on 11/19/21 at 1:40 am to TheWalrus
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Take the people in the cases actions and switch their political affiliation and you all would be seeing this very differently.
Nope.
That's where conservatives are different than dems. We respect laws while laws are considered an impediment to dems.
Notice how little action the Arbery trial is generating here. The vast majority of people think those guys were morons and way out of line.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 1:46 am to TheWalrus
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You people are as bad as the liberals in not seeing this isn’t as clear and obvious as you think it is.
What’s not clear. What about any of the shootings by Rittenhouse is inconsistent with justifiable/self-defense? Be specific.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 2:17 am to TheWalrus
quote:I try my damnedest not to see criminal activity and trials through a political lens.
Take the people in the cases actions and switch their political affiliation and you all would be seeing this very differently.
Please- just to illustrate others' bias-
list the factors demonstrated in the trial, that make you question self defense.
What part has you considering a murder conviction, instead? Tell me where that part gets proven at or beyond a reasonable doubt.
No matter how fuzzy or clear the drone footage is, I don't see Rittenhouse brandishing the rifle, and that's their only legit hope of a charge sticking. As I remember from other footage from different angles, I do see Rosenbaum ranting and closing in on Rittenhouse. It's conceded that he chased him. The DA even said "it's cowardly that he just didn't take his beating like a man"... something that is not required by law.
And just to point out- if you ARE carrying a loaded weapon and someone 'beats you up', there's every chance he can take that weapon from you, sling or no sling. And then you risk your attacker continuing his attack, with a deadly weapon. And then you're dead.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 4:32 am to Issa Honk
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How can 6 people possibly be that fricking stupid
Justice is dead
I'm sure they are afraid of being doxed by the left.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 6:21 am to Issa Honk
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How can 6 people possibly be that fricking stupid
Hatred. The progs HATE independent self-reliant white males like Kyle and want us all caged or dead. I’m not exaggerating. Hatred is murder and they hate us.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 6:26 am to Issa Honk
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This post was edited on 11/7/22 at 7:03 am
Posted on 11/19/21 at 6:28 am to BuckyCheese
quote:well that's a hell of a qualifier
No one without a desired outcome or a fear of the leftist mobs can look at the evidence and not find for self defense.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 6:30 am to Adam4LSU
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The media still controls what the mob thinks or does. If they have no clips of the trial to take out of context and use as propaganda and post all over social media, the mob has no instruction on how/what to think. Tell me I'm wrong
Not wrong, but that’s only half the story. The value of the trial is having open minded people ALSO see the evidence framed, and come to the obvious conclusion that it was self defense. MANY didn’t follow the case closely enough to form an opinion, now they can.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 8:02 am to Y.A. Tittle
The hung jury results in a mistrial. If the jury can’t come to a unanimous decision (hung jury) it will be declared a mistrial.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 8:07 am to JohnnyKilroy
Hopefully the judge adds with prejudice to that. Not holding my breath though.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 8:08 am to TheWalrus
Why are you so fricking retarded? You are part of the reason why this country is where it is. Facts are facts. Justice is justice. There is no politics in true justice. Read that again.
THERE IS NO POLITICS IN TRUE JUSTICE.
THERE IS NO POLITICS IN TRUE JUSTICE.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 8:24 am to L.A.
quote:It is like Shrodinger's cat. Kyle is both guilty and not guilty until the jury reaches a verdict.
BREAKING: Rittenhouse lawyer says he believes jury is deadlocked at 6-6 split
And there is no way the lawyer or the Jack no anything besides guessing.
This post was edited on 11/19/21 at 8:28 am
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