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re: Rittenhouse Charges..and lessers coming

Posted on 11/12/21 at 9:23 am to
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 9:23 am to
First shot was to the dick.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
26199 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 9:24 am to
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Dang ok. Like 3 in the chest once in the noggin? I'll have to go back and see that part


One in the pelvis, one in the hand, one in the back and one grazed the head.
Posted by Herooftheday
Member since Feb 2021
3830 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 9:25 am to
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Doesn't a reckless misdemeanor mean he can't use self defense as an excuse? I thought I read somewhere that there's a lesser charge that could f him over


You can't claim self defense if you are in commission of a crime. But I don't think that will apply because it was a technical crime. A child can use a gun in self defense in the home and kill the intruder. That's self defense all day long.
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
8920 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 9:25 am to
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FIRST-DEGREE RECKLESSLY ENDANGERING SAFETY, USE OF A DANGEROUS WEAPON - Unknown glowing man

FIFY
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
22350 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 9:28 am to
It's too late to add charges now.

This would have had to have been done prior to the case.
Posted by Herooftheday
Member since Feb 2021
3830 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 9:29 am to
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One in the pelvis, one in the hand, one in the back and one grazed the head.


You could almost do that with one shot if he grabbed the barrel and had his head back just right.
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
11406 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 9:31 am to
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But how does a defendant get to defend himself against said charges when filed at the last minute?


It’s bullshite but common. It is impossible to commit the greater offense without committing the lesser one.
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
11406 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 9:32 am to
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It's too late to add charges now. This would have had to have been done prior to the case.


Nope. Can add lessers before it heads to jury. They aren’t “new” they are lessers.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
21747 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 9:32 am to
Essentially that’s why the prosecution was desperate to get that pic in. If they can get the jury to believe Kyle was the aggressor by raising his weapon, it wipes out self defense in every instance. So even though he takes a skateboard to the head or has a gun pointed at him, he can’t legally claim self defense. Their problem is that no one testified to Kyle ever being aggressive or threatening. The state also didn’t bring up Ziminski to testify that Kyle raised his weapon at him, which if he did you’d think you’d want him in court testifying to that fact
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39699 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 9:33 am to
Are we in court today?
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
22350 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 9:35 am to
The judge - Schroeder (spelling?) would have to agree to it.

It's rare to begin with and this judge definitely won't allow it.
Posted by LongueCarabine
Pointe Aux Pins, LA
Member since Jan 2011
8205 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 9:36 am to
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grazed the head.


Damn, I was hoping for pink mist.
Posted by Tigers2010a
Member since Jul 2021
3627 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 9:39 am to
I have never watched a trial but I caught a fair amount of this one. My impression of the judicial system is not good. It seems like justice takes a back seat to egos, money and complicated rules. How an average person gets justice, I am not sure.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
26199 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 9:48 am to
They have to be unanimous to convict right? What about to acquit?
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
38972 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 9:49 am to
Maybe you get him for something like a reckless discharge,but that is about it.

What you need to be on the lookout for is the US Attorney if this case ends in not guilty across the board. Something tells me there will be a federal civil rights violation coming.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
40013 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 9:50 am to
That's bullshite. Doesn't a defense attorney base his whole defense and arguments on the charges in front of him? How can you add a bunch of crap in at the last minute that the defense may or may not have addressed based on original charges? This will wrap the jury around the axle if allowed.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
81683 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 9:50 am to
Yes and yes
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
50005 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 9:51 am to
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Must have missed this. 4 shots on the first guy?

This is ONE of the most shocking things I learned during my watch of the trial the past 2 days.

Didn't spend any time previously watching videos - just what was shown on newscasts. Never did I sense more than one shot fired - and I don't remember any news source reporting it. must have ignored the multiple shots as being all part of the background noise.

The most SERIOUS thing I learned is that there was ZERO evidence available to warrant an indictment for anything other than some bullshite misdemeanor. = breaking curfew along with another 200000 unindicted thugs.

State and County and City and DAoffice and individuals all up and down the line need to be sued into bankrupt disgrace for this. Along with liars in the media and all politicians who maliciously distorted the issue for political capital.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
26199 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 9:54 am to
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breaking curfew


This charge was dropped.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
21747 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 9:54 am to
How would you get him on reckless discharge thigh? He didn’t fire off dozens of rounds. He fired 8 in total 6 of which hit the intended target. His only missed were the two at jump kick man. He was very precise and not spraying and praying
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