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re: Rise and fall of ESPN
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:22 pm to Navytiger74
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:22 pm to Navytiger74
He's talking about Sling TV, PS Vue, and DirectTV Now. Those are the big-three streaming services aimed at "cord cutters". All have ESPN available in some form or fashion I believe.
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:25 pm to junkfunky
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Every one of the currently available streaming services has ESPN and ESPN2 in the base lineups. Anyone that has any paid service has access to ESPN.
False. I pay for only Internet and do not have access to any ESPN content unless it is only streamed on watchespn.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:25 pm to lsuboi91
It really impressive how fast they've fallen. Seems like maybe just a decade ago I used to watch some of their programing and look at their website.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:25 pm to Centinel
quote:Ah. When I hear "cord-cutters" I generally thought of people who eschewed "packaged" services altogether for more "a la carte" viewing--not just those who went for internet vice traditional cable providers. Most of the guys I know who gave up cable don't pay for live-streaming. They just have the big movie/premium television providers.
He's talking about Sling TV, PS Vue, and DirectTV Now. Those are the big-three streaming services aimed at "cord cutters". All have ESPN available in some form or fashion I believe.
Thanks for clarification.
ETA: What the heck is SlingTV. I remember Sling Boxes from when I was stationed in Germany and Bahrain. Do they have a streaming service now?
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:26 pm to Navytiger74
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Because I've never seen ESPN on Amazon Prime or Netflix (which I do have)? I'm relatively behind on media tech for someone my age, so honest questions. I still have a landline.
I believe you can get ESPN streaming service on Roku, but I'm not sure.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:28 pm to LuckyTiger
quote:same here. Add me to the listquote:
You weren't watching espn anymore because you probably have a job and not enough time to watch their programming beside what you really want too
I had a job and watched espn.
I still have a job and don't watch espn anymore. And I don't work as hard as I used to.
I don't watch espn anymore because it is no longer what it used to be: about sports and an enjoyable pastime where we could get away from pain in the arse subjects like political opinion, preaching, social and political agendas.
Now it's agenda driven. And that's why I turned it off.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:29 pm to Navytiger74
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I've never looked (no longer as much a sports fan) but are you talking services like Apple TV and Hulu (don't have).
No, the streaming cable services like SlingTV, PSVue, DirectTVNow, etc. There is no standalone for ESPN like the CBS All Access deal.
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Because I've never seen ESPN on Amazon Prime or Netflix (which I do have)?
You can access ESPN via the WatchESPN app but you have to have login credentials from a provider so still have to have service in order to use it on its own.
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I'm relatively behind on media tech for someone my age, so honest questions. I still have a landline.
You're not alone but if you want to learn more come on over to the tech board and as an added bonus you can join in on us fricking with CAD every chance we get.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:31 pm to Navytiger74
All three of those I mentioned are pretty much the same. They offer "packages" of channels streamed over your base internet connection. It's not truly a la carte, but there are multiple price points and package options, and they all come in much cheaper than cable. There is a good bit of channel overlap with all three, but there are certain channels you can get on one service that you might not be able to get on the others (based on agreements with the stations I'd assume.)
I'm looking at all three right now, but am leaning towards PS Vue. Honestly the deciding factor will be making sure the lady of the house still has access to her favorite chick flick channels
ETA: junkfunky beat me to it. Also major props to the Tech Board for getting me started down the streaming journey
I'm looking at all three right now, but am leaning towards PS Vue. Honestly the deciding factor will be making sure the lady of the house still has access to her favorite chick flick channels
ETA: junkfunky beat me to it. Also major props to the Tech Board for getting me started down the streaming journey
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:32 pm to Navytiger74
Not entirely true. I, and many others like me, used to watch sportscenter every morning at breakfast, and watch it before bed at night.
I used to watch college gameday nearly every saturday.
Once they stopped showing highlights and started focusing on "so and so said blank on twitter!" (usually Tim Tebow or Tony Romo), who's in trouble with the law or the commissioner, and talking about bs political issues, I stopped watching. Once they started just covering athletes like celebrities instead of talking about the game, I started cutting back my consumption.
Now, I almost never watch ESPN except during college football broadcasts, and I watch far fewer games than I used to.
There are millions like me. It's not all chord cutters.
I used to watch college gameday nearly every saturday.
Once they stopped showing highlights and started focusing on "so and so said blank on twitter!" (usually Tim Tebow or Tony Romo), who's in trouble with the law or the commissioner, and talking about bs political issues, I stopped watching. Once they started just covering athletes like celebrities instead of talking about the game, I started cutting back my consumption.
Now, I almost never watch ESPN except during college football broadcasts, and I watch far fewer games than I used to.
There are millions like me. It's not all chord cutters.
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 5:34 pm
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:32 pm to junkfunky
quote:Yeah I had ESPN360 then ESPN3 then WatchESPN when I lived in Germany and Bahrain from 2009-2014. Lifesavers. I was eventually able to get an "ESPNAmerica" through my German cable provider.
You can access ESPN via the WatchESPN app but you have to have login credentials from a provider so still have to have service in order to use it on its own.
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You're not alone but if you want to learn more come on over to the tech board and as an added bonus you can join in on us fricking with CAD every chance we get.
I may have to migrate over before I get booted off the site again.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:32 pm to lsuboi91
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fall of ESPN
Oh this is cute.
ESPN isn't going anywhere.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:32 pm to LSUTIGER in TEXAS
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same here. Add me to the list
and me
and any time I give them a chance with something non-live sports they piss me off within 15 minutes so the span between those attempts is longer and longer
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:33 pm to Dire Wolf
So fewer people are in the workforce and you think time available for sports viewing has decreased?
Not in the least. Total hours spent watching sports has likely increased. People seek out other venues to watch sports either due to political differences or dislike of ESPN.
Also there has been a proliferation of competitors most of whom don't do politics as much.
Not in the least. Total hours spent watching sports has likely increased. People seek out other venues to watch sports either due to political differences or dislike of ESPN.
Also there has been a proliferation of competitors most of whom don't do politics as much.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:33 pm to cito
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False. I pay for only Internet and do not have access to any ESPN content unless it is only streamed on watchespn.
While most companies offer cable services and internet they are different entities from a utility standpoint. Your ISP credentials give you access to most of the content not on one of ESPN's tv channels but your cable/satellite provider credentials give you access to the tv channel content as well.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:34 pm to Navytiger74
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I may have to migrate over before I get booted off the site again.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:35 pm to kingbob
quote:I believe you guys. Just seemed that coord cutting probably accounted for more of that drop in revenue than disaffected consumers. Could be that I'm wrong. I didn't run any numbers and wasn't aware that they have broader streaming options than the overseas ones that I referenced a couple of posts ago.
Not entirely true. I, and many others like me, used to watch sportscenter every morning at breakfast, and watch it before bed at night. I used to watch college gameday nearly every saturday. Once they stopped showing highlights and started focusing on "so and so said blank on twitter!" (usually Tim Tebow or Tony Romo), who's in trouble with the law or the commissioner, and talking about bs political issues, I stopped watching. Once they started just covering athletes like celebrities instead of talking about the game, I started cutting back my consumption. Now, I almost never watch ESPN except during college football broadcasts, and I watch far fewer games than I used to. There are millions like me. It's not all chord cutters.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:35 pm to Navytiger74
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when I lived in Germany and Bahrain from 2009-2014
When/Where were you in Germany? I was in Heidelberg from 2010 until mid-2011 (USAREUR HQ), then Schweinfurt from mid-2011 until mid-2013.
ESPN360/ESPN3 was also a lifesaver
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:36 pm to Navytiger74
Trust me, chord cutting is a major factor. In fact, I would say the tabloidization and policizing of sports is likely one of the factors driving chord cutting.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:36 pm to Centinel
quote:Stuttgart from Feb 2009 and March 2012 (EUCOM then AFRICOM).
When/Where were you in Germany? I was in Heidelberg from 2010 until mid-2011 (USAREUR HQ), then Schweinfurt from mid-2011 until mid-2013.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:39 pm to Tactical1
They are not going to go anywhere. What they have done is get away from news and X's and O's and gone more of the route of FNC and CNN with talking heads instead. People will still watch ESPN because it is there only option for sports that don't serve fish and chips at the concession stand. While I don't watch it because they replaced sports with OTL and X's and O's with human interest stories, I think cutting the cord is the real reason for their revenue decline.
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