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Rise and fall of ESPN

Posted on 2/8/17 at 4:57 pm
Posted by lsuboi91
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 4:57 pm
Technically this should go on the money board, but I feel the key behind their downfall is their leftist platform that they've been doubling down on. People are tired of it and they're cutting them out.

LSU & Saints games are the only time I'll bother watching ESPN.

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Posted by Deuces
The bottom
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:00 pm to
People watch sports to get away from reality and politics, especially when it's anti-American/leftist politics being shoved down your throat by a fricking sports channel.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36665 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:00 pm to
Their decline has nothing to do with them being leftists.


You weren't watching espn anymore because you probably have a job and not enough time to watch their programming beside what you really want too.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260902 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:06 pm to
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Their decline has nothing to do with them being leftists.


Probably does. No one wants to watch that shite.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43341 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:07 pm to
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Their decline has nothing to do with them being leftists.


You weren't watching espn anymore because you probably have a job and not enough time to watch their programming beside what you really want too.


This makes absolutely no sense.
Posted by baobabtiger
Member since May 2009
4724 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:07 pm to
I used to watch sports center exclusively while getting ready for work and while falling asleep. I don't watch it at all. I can't stand the leftist push and the constant advertisements and sponsorships of the show segments between commercials.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25373 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:10 pm to
I don't like a dose of progressive intolerance and activism when I'm watching football.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:11 pm to
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The bad news: The cable segments profitability has decreased by one-third since 2014 (chart). Good news? Value Line believes ESPN's streaming strategy will enable it to increase its audience and expand market share.


So the article seems to imply that the fall in revenue may be a result of the broader movement of consumers from cable to streaming services (unplugging), but you seem to think it's political. What's that based in?
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45308 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:11 pm to
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You weren't watching espn anymore because you probably have a job and not enough time to watch their programming beside what you really want too

I had a job and watched espn.

I still have a job and don't watch espn anymore. And I don't work as hard as I used to.

I don't watch espn anymore because it is no longer what it used to be: about sports and an enjoyable pastime where we could get away from pain in the arse subjects like political opinion, preaching, social and political agendas.

Now it's agenda driven. And that's why I turned it off.
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:11 pm to
quote:

but I feel the key behind their downfall is their leftist platform that they've been doubling down on. People are tired of it and they're cutting them out.

LSU & Saints games are the only time I'll bother watching ESPN.


I absolutely agree. I would always have it on in the background or before bed years ago. I can't even watch it anymore.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43341 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:14 pm to
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So the article seems to imply that the fall in revenue may be a result of the broader movement of consumers from cable to streaming services (unplugging), but you seem to think it's political. What's that based in?



I honestly think it's a bit of both, or along the lines of "well, I have no desire to watch ESPN anymore because of their politics...and they were the one channel I was keeping cable for, so I'm cutting the cord."

That last part I would love to see statistics on, but would probably be hard to come up with reliable statistics for it.
Posted by Mrs. Amaro
Uptown Shreveport
Member since Nov 2004
3645 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:15 pm to
I'm here to tell you I used to be an ESPN lifer... and I don't watch the show anymore because it's too busy pushing a liberal agenda.

I think the last straw was when Caitlyn Jenner received the Arthur Ash Award for cutting off her sack.
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 8:36 pm
Posted by cito
BR
Member since Nov 2015
805 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:16 pm to
Are they taking into account the number of people "cutting the cord"? How do these declining numbers compare to other cable networks? (foxnews, cnn, spike, foxsports etc)

I personally don't watch ESPN because I only have Internet service. I do listen to ESPN podcasts though.
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 5:18 pm
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:16 pm to
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I honestly think it's a bit of both, or along the lines of "well, I have no desire to watch ESPN anymore because of their politics...and they were the one channel I was keeping cable for, so I'm cutting the cord." That last part I would love to see statistics on, but would probably be hard to come up with reliable statistics for it.
Obviously based just on some of the posting here, their political stances turn some consumers off. So I'm sure some viewers stopped watching ESPN for that reason. But I'd bet at 33% decline in revenue over the last 3 years has one hell of a lot more to do with cord cutting than with anything else.

Personally (worthless anecdote) I haven't even cut the coord and I just don't care about sports as much anymore. Pretty much every sports entity I've given a shite about in my adult life (LSU, the Saints, Tiger Woods) has been in the dumps for the last several years.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:18 pm to
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How do these declining numbers compare to other cable networks? (foxnews, cnn, spike, foxsports etc)
Worth a look. I know most cable news has been taking a beating (election spikes aside). Fox's audience is pretty old, though, so it's probably relatively insulated from "cord-cutting." Probably worth it to check out other entertainment platforms.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33911 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:18 pm to
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So the article seems to imply that the fall in revenue may be a result of the broader movement of consumers from cable to streaming services (unplugging), but you seem to think it's political. What's that based in?


Every one of the currently available streaming services has ESPN and ESPN2 in the base lineups. Anyone that has any paid service has access to ESPN.

The amount of people going with just OTA and "free sites/scrapers" is fairly low.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25373 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:20 pm to
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So the article seems to imply that the fall in revenue may be a result of the broader movement of consumers from cable to streaming services (unplugging), but you seem to think it's political. What's that based in?


I think its more than that.

Haven't NFL's ratings dropped recently also?
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:21 pm to
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Every one of the currently available streaming services has ESPN and ESPN2 in the base lineups. Anyone that has any paid service has access to ESPN.
I've never looked (no longer as much a sports fan) but are you talking services like Apple TV and Hulu (don't have). Because I've never seen ESPN on Amazon Prime or Netflix (which I do have)? I'm relatively behind on media tech for someone my age, so honest questions. I still have a landline.
Posted by Friscodog
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2009
4475 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:22 pm to
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So the article seems to imply that the fall in revenue may be a result of the broader movement of consumers from cable to streaming services (unplugging), but you seem to think it's political. What's that based in?


I think there has been a double standard by ESPN on how they handle their commentators.. Kurt Schilling for example was fired, for his political tweets, yet others who have done similar things have only gotten slaps on wrist, because those latter tweets were in line with democrat or progressive positions. I also think they are collateral damage for fallout from NFL, which is also inconsistent on how they apply their "rules". Colin K and many others allowed "free speech" and kneel during national anthem with no comments from NFL, yet a team wants to honor police or some other first responders with stickers on helmets and they are told "no" by the league.
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
17319 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 5:22 pm to
I quit watching them years ago for exactly the reason of their politics. I want to see sports not some moron lecturing me about racism.

The only show I still watch is College Gameday. When Lee Corso goes, I'll probably quit watching that as well.
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 7:55 pm
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