re: RINOs

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The current example of staunch conservatives is Massie who has only passed one bill in 14 years cosponsored with a radical dem. If that is what conservative means, yeah I’m far fricking from it.

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And the current example of staunch RINOs sat around for four years, pants at their ankles, furiously visiting Bangkok while watching Biden fly plane loads of illegals in on my dime.

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Nobody gives a shite about how conservative someone is

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That's obvious, but the discussion was about the semantics of the word "conservative."

Why does it make sense to you to label the politicians you support "conservative" when you admit you don't care about them actually being conservative and you know that they aren't?

That's what's being discussed in the conversation you injected yourself into.

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People like you and the left are the far extreme minority who are holding up progress.

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The left is an extreme minority? It's half the country.

And I'm holding up "progress?" You mean I'm not allowing you to be as "progressive" as you'd like? Well, you just made my day. Any time I can impede someone from being more progressive, that's a win.

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we want people who actually work for us.

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I'm well aware of what you want, that's why i wrote what I wrote, and everything you've said validates it.

You're a populist. You don't care about policy. All you care about is "Us & Them." You're a collectivist who feels like "The Little Guy" who wants Big Government to step in on your behalf and save you from "Globalists" and "corporations" and "Deep States."

Trust me, I get it. I understand perfectly.

I grew up listening to Carter-era Democrats saying the same exact tripe.

And that's the thing y'all for some amazing reason are blind to. You hate "the left," but you are becoming the left. You've already become collectivists instead of individualists. You already don't care what policies Big Government wants to enact, as long as you feel that they are on your behalf and benefit you personally. You already justify all of this in the name of shadowy cabals of imaginary Boogiemen.

When I was growing up, Democrats were about where y'all are now in the slide toward socialism. Wanting government to help out "The Little Guy." Fight for "The Little Guy." Support unions to save them from evil corporations.

I'd say that right now if Trump came out in support of labor unions, MAGA would absolutely fall right in line. More government regulations to help out "The Little Guy," hell yeah. Y'all would be all over it.

On this trajectory it will probably be a few more years and y'all will take up the "tax the rich" banner. Everybody will need to "pay their fair share" according to y'all. All anybody will have to do is promise you that it will somehow lead to more American jobs or some such nonsense.

It will take longer—probably the next generation of MAGA—but next y'all will embrace welfare. After all, that's just Big Government helping out the "Little Guy," isn't it? It will probably start with wanting to expand unemployment benefits, justified by jobs lost to AI, and over time "progress" to embracing straight up welfare.

Then y'all will want "common sense gun control." Again, that will probably be the next generation of MAGA, but I can see it coming. I've already watched those hunters up in Michigan and Minnesota and Wisconsin and Ohio accept it, and MAGA will too.

Think I'm crazy? Y'all have already cheered for the largest tax increase since the early 90s, actual by-definition socialism with Trump buying the government into private business, all kinds of assaults on the constitution so that Trump can do whatever he wants, you've tolerated Trump rolling back the 2nd Amendment on bump stocks and making several concerning statements about it, you've made excuses for Trump spending and cheered him dangling tax exemptions in front of low IQ voters like any Democrat who ever lived, and on and on and on.

That's what happens when your only guiding principle is "Us & Them." A politician can get anything he or she wants by you simply by convincing you that he is "fighting for you." He's taking your guns away for your own good, because he's "fighting for you." He's supporting labor unions because he's "fighting for the American worker." Etc.

Roger has always been right. Populism is inherently collectivist and always pulls left.

Now, since you brought it up, that's all true.

But that's not what we were talking about.

He's a fig

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This is the ONLY effective tool voters have to make politicians understand they represent the people that elected them and that they are expected to conduct the people's business, NOT do the opposite or nothing at all.

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All it does is create pander bears where the other guys once sat.

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We’re talking a state election…calm your tits

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All Politics is Local!!

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My precious AWATALAD candidate got slaughtered.

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Yep there’s your real issue

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DeBoar

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It's the funniest thing to me when some poster thinks that I'm going to be angry that they have no attention span and can't read a few paragraphs.

I'm well aware of the literacy problem the country is facing.

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I'm not a progressive, though, like the guy I responded to. Sounds like you are too.

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You’re a tds loser the whole board knows it man

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You’re a tds loser the whole board knows it man

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But not a progressive, like you.

Am I supposed to know what that means?