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re: RFK- keto diet as cure for schizophrenia

Posted on 2/5/26 at 1:05 pm to
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 2/5/26 at 1:05 pm to
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Medical derision from the guy who said 1) the covid shots are a vaccine 2) 100,000,000 people who got the shots subsequently got covid you really have no room here little fella

I’m sure you will get upvoted because you love spreading fake news. This is an outright falsehood based on your preconceived notions about my posts. I’ve never made any comments here or anywhere on TD stating or implying anywhere near that. In fact, I’ve never even use the word Covid.
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
2280 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 1:05 pm to
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People are born every day in this world. Every hour and every second. It is possible for a cure to exist, and still have a constant stream of sick people. Does this make sense to you? Think hard.


Here we are back at my original question you refuse to answer. The volume of patients (which you depend on for your bloated salary) would dramatically decrease should healthcare shift away from pharmaceutical dependency beginning at infancy.

This shouldn’t be difficult for a medical professional to grasp.

Are you DEI?
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45530 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 1:07 pm to
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I am MAGA AF and think Kennedy is just a retarded lawyer with a famous father and big mouth.


Yes, we all know from reading your posts that being MAGA doesn't mean a person cannot also be a fricking retard.


Have you ever tried to treat patients with schizophrenia? Do you know what the difference between mainstay treatments/therapies and an adjunct treatment/therapy is?
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 1:10 pm to
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It's a fair assumption that a one- time cure would cost less than decades of treatment.

It is not.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
11470 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 1:12 pm to
What I know is that the case studies to date have been small, but several people have gone into full remission from long standing schizophrenia through switching to a keto diet.



And the other thing that I know is that you frickers are shilling for big pharma because you are conflicted (assuming you're a doctor).
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 1:14 pm to
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He said a doctor at harvard had a patient cured by keto.

No, he erroneously characterized a doctor' s study from Harvard to mean that the research stated that schizo can be cured by a keto diet when it did not make such a claim.

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I cured my headache by drinking a couple of glasses of water.

Yes, but per Dr. Palmers aforementioned study, he never claimed it cured anyone. How can you not appreciate that difference?

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It was AN EXAMPLE of nutrition having a positive impact on issues beyond physical health.

It was a lie.

Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45530 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 1:14 pm to
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It's a fair assumption that a one- time cure would cost less than decades of treatment.

It is not.


Not to mention treating schizophrenia with diet would not be a one time cure. It is a lifelong dietary modification.

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onmymedicalgrind


Don't bother arguing with 4chubbies. She is a woman who likely has bipolar disorder, borderline personality disorder, or terminal stupidity. Does not matter what you say she will not acknowledge or admit that your arguments have validity.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 1:14 pm to
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Do you guys know how Christopher Palmer treats schizophrenia and bipolar disorder? With keto diet. Dude has been with Harvard as a psychiatrist for 30 frickin years.

He treats it or cures it?
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
11470 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 1:14 pm to
I would say the woman in the post above yours was cured, but that's just me.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 1:15 pm to
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I don't know anything about him... but it's sad people will out of hand dismiss shite simply because of who said it.

Or maybe because, you know, studies are publically available?

I think its sadder you cape for someone just because of who they are, no matter what they actually say.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61197 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 1:18 pm to
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It is not.



Why not?

my sister has MS. She went to India about 20 years ago to get HSCT (haematopoietic stem cell transplantation). It completely stopped the progression of her disease. Again, this was like 20 years ago - It cost between $10,000 - $20,000.

Medications to manage MS cost $4,000 - $5,000 a month.

I know this is only one situation and one disease. I'm not an expert here. I'm sure you can see how someone would assume a one-time treatment would provide less revenue than monthly treatments over one's lifetime.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 1:19 pm to
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Here we are back at my original question you refuse to answer. The volume of patients (which you depend on for your bloated salary) would dramatically decrease should healthcare shift away from pharmaceutical dependency beginning at infancy.


What I do, cures a disease. It is immediately gone. They no longer need pills, etc etc.

Yet, we are doing more and more of them every year. Patients keep coming in droves! Endless supply!!!

How could that be?

Think hard. I believe in you.

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This shouldn’t be difficult for a medical professional to grasp.

I'm grasping it just find. I can't make you drink.
This post was edited on 2/5/26 at 1:20 pm
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 1:19 pm to
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So here's a fun one. Do you guys know how Christopher Palmer treats schizophrenia and bipolar disorder? With keto diet. Dude has been with Harvard as a psychiatrist for 30 frickin years.

He also uses antipsychotics with his keto diet
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45530 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 1:20 pm to
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What I know is that the case studies to date have been small, but several people have gone into full remission from long standing schizophrenia through switching to a keto diet.



Link the case studies please. I would love to know the degree of severity this 82 year olds schizophrenia was.

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And the other thing that I know is that you frickers are shilling for big pharma because you are conflicted (assuming you're a doctor).


I am a doctor. I am not schilling for anybody. Dealing with severe mental illness is major pain in the arse for primary doctors like me do to the lack of psychiatrists. If switching up patients diets would solve my schizophrenic and bipolar symptoms then it would make my life so much easier. Unfortunately it is extremely difficult to get those patients to take a pill every day and it would be nearly impossible to get them to stick to a keto diet.

ETA: I see that you did not answer my previous questions which means that you are just another dumbass who thinks he is an expert because he read something on the internet.
This post was edited on 2/5/26 at 1:22 pm
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
11470 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 1:22 pm to
She should look into potentially using hallucinogenics. They're discovering that LSD may help fight MS.

Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21462 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 1:23 pm to
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No, he erroneously characterized a doctor' s study from Harvard to mean that the research stated that schizo can be cured by a keto diet when it did not make such a claim.


You might want to google some of this... you're just as hazy on details as you claim RFKjr to be.

I finally looked him up because of this thread and his work is very interesting.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
11470 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 1:24 pm to
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Link the case studies please.


NIH
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21462 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 1:24 pm to
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Or maybe because, you know, studies are publically available?


I just tried accessing one by Palmer and it is walled.

Maybe you have access and can quote some tidbits...

Here is the link The ketogenic diet and remission of psychotic symptoms in schizophrenia: Two case studies Christopher M Palmer 1 , Javier Gilbert-Jaramillo 2 , Eric C Westman 3
Posted by Tigertittie
Member since Sep 2021
985 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 1:25 pm to
I absolutely believe diet can help, I never said it didn't.

I just said he should present the studies, let them speak for themselves.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61197 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 1:29 pm to
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She should look into potentially using hallucinogenics. They're discovering that LSD may help fight MS.



Really interesting and something I had never heard of. Thanks.

The HSCT stopped the progression of her disease. She still has legions that were already on her brain when she got HSCT - it didn't reverse existing damage but she hasn't had any new legions since.

Thanks for the info.
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