re: Reuters: Ukrainian source called Moscow's demands 'non-starters'

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Plenty of photos on Twitter.

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A soldier with a Nazi "Heil Hitler" salute salutes World War II Nazi collaborator Stepan Bandera.

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Swing and a miss, Comrade Fake News.

A quick google shows that Bandera was actually an enemy of the Third Reich and was arrested by the Gestapo and spent about 3 years in a German prison for attempting to form a Ukrainian independent state from both the Soviet Union and Hitler's Germany by working with a pro-Ukraine group called the Ukrainian National Committee.

The head of the Committee, Yaroslav Stetsko, proclaimed the creation of a Ukrainian state on 30 June 1941, in German-captured Lviv. The Germans disapproved of the proclamation, and for his refusal to rescind the decree, Bandera was arrested by the Gestapo.

He was released in September 1944 by the Germans in hope that he could fight the Soviet advance.

Bandera was a Ukrainian nationalist who wanted to create an independent and free Ukraine from both the Soviet Union and Germany.

You just can never be truthful and/or accurate. So typical of you and so dumb.

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Swing and a miss,

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Incorrect Nazi Boy. Not only are you dumb as a rock but also now a confirmed Nazi Lover and Banderas defender.


"Bandera and the Nazis
Initial Collaboration (1941):
Before Nazi Germany’s invasion of the Soviet Union (Operation Barbarossa, June 1941), Bandera’s OUN-B sought an alliance with the Nazis, hoping to secure support for an independent Ukraine. The OUN-B raised Ukrainian auxiliary police units and collaborated with German forces in western Ukraine.

On June 30, 1941, after Nazi troops entered Lviv, the OUN-B declared an independent Ukrainian state, pledging cooperation with Hitler. This was accompanied by violent pogroms, particularly against Jews in Lviv, where thousands were killed by OUN-B followers, local militias, and Nazi Einsatzgruppen. While no direct evidence shows Bandera personally ordered these pogroms, he was informed of the violence and did not intervene to protect minorities.

OUN-B Ideology and Antisemitism:
Bandera’s OUN-B held ultranationalist and antisemitic views, seeing Jews as supporters of Soviet rule and a threat to Ukrainian statehood. OUN-B documents from 1941 called for the “extermination” of Jews, Poles, and Russians deemed hostile, particularly their intelligentsia.

Historians like Karel Berkhoff note that Bandera and his deputies shared the Nazi obsession with Jews as backers of Soviet imperialism, contributing to the murder of over 1.5 million Ukrainian Jews during the Holocaust."

What part of these statements confuse you?

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Bandera’s OUN-B sought an alliance with the Nazis, 

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the OUN-B declared an independent Ukrainian state, pledging cooperation with Hitler.

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Historians like Karel Berkhoff note that Bandera and his deputies shared the Nazi obsession with Jews 

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Imagine being so Disingenuous that you try and act like they are not Ukraine Nationalist who are also Nazi Supporters. The man is pictured wearing a Nazi Uniform and is a known Nazi Supporter and Collaborater. You have officially reached rock bottom Nazi Boy. Supporting and trying to frame Stephen Bandera as just a Nationalist is a new low for you but I am not surprised.




Antisemitic Defense Mechanism: By emphasizing Bandera’s nationalist goals, defenders downplay or deny his collaboration with Nazi Germany and the OUN’s role in anti-Jewish pogroms, such as those in Lviv in 1941, where thousands of Jews were killed. Antisemitic individuals may justify these actions by claiming Jews were associated with Soviet communism, a narrative Bandera’s OUN promoted, falsely portraying Jews as enemies of Ukrainian independence.

Why It Appeals: This selective memory allows antisemites to sanitize Bandera’s legacy, presenting him as a patriot rather than a collaborator in fascist atrocities. It aligns with a broader tendency to glorify nationalist figures while ignoring their crimes against minorities, especially Jews."

Arguing with you is like arguing with a little girl.

You don't comprehend written English, you post quotes that disprove your own positions on issues and you get emotional like a 13 year old girl.

You called Bandera a Nazi. He wasn't. He was jailed by the Gestapo for 3 years for opposing Germany's occupation of Ukraine.

He wanted an independent and free Ukraine state. He would have made a temporary alliance with the devil if he thought it would have helped him achieve his independence goals for his country. Ukrainians had been abused and murdered by the Soviets for over 25 years when WWII started. He wanted to get out from under the Soviets rule.

I'd really like to know, what is the highest level of education that your achieved? I'm guessing you barely passed a GED exam. And you've never traveled beyond you the state you were born in.

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in 5 months

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Math is hard for you. Do you know the difference between 5 and 8 months? I have seen your low post count alter name before. Ahhh..The Eric Daugherty attack. I knew you looked familiar

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Except Russia wants to give up territory that Ukraine controls

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Ukraine doesn't control anything. Those territories are mostly gone.


Luhansk Oblast: Russia controls nearly all of the region, approximately 99% as of December 2024.

Donetsk Oblast: Russia holds about 83% of the region, with Ukraine about to lose key areas like parts of Pokrovsk.

Zaporizhzhia Oblast: Russia controls roughly 74%, including the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant, but Ukraine holds Zaporizhzhia city.

Kherson Oblast: Russia occupies around 76%, though Ukraine maintains control over Kherson city and other areas.

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Ukraine doesn't control anything. Those territories are mostly gone.

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Wrong, you even said so yourself.

Your intelligence is artificial.

Would you prefer he collaborated with Stalin's pogroms against Jews, Cossacks and Ukrainians?

What are you, some kind of communist?

Bandera was a nationalist. The Nazis were nationalists. Racism, nativism and tribalism are often components of nationalism.

Hungarian consultant to the Strategic Services Unit (SSU, precursor to the CIA) Zsolt Aradi met with and wrote of the founders of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN) that, “they have an almost religious worship of their nation and distrust anything foreign: first and foremost Polish; then Russian; then German.”

“Ukraine nationalists allied themselves with their Nazi ‘liberators’ during the first days of Operation Barbarossa in 1941. Even though OUN’s enthusiasm diminished after the Nazis failed to support Ukrainian statehood, many Ukrainians continued to fight alongside the Germans until the end of the war. At the same time, Nazis rounded up OUN members and placed them in concentration camps.”

Cold War Allies:
The Origins of CIA's Relationship with
Ukrainian Nationalists

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Zelensky would also find himself in a worse position if American money and western armaments were cut off. You leave him short of money and a non credible security guarantee then Ukraine becomes Russia's punk.

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So same place they would have been three years ago, would have saved 100s of thousands of casualties.....and we would have kept 200 billion. gotcha, would have made a lot of sense then....and now.