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re: Restarting Coal Mines that have been shut down
Posted on 4/11/25 at 7:53 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 4/11/25 at 7:53 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Nah, its been clear to me for a long time. Youve been out of the closet for years.
You see. This right here. Clearly your BA didn’t include basic psychology. You are such a textbook case.
Why is it you think you need to point out how manly you are all of the time?
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Posted on 4/11/25 at 7:57 pm to Mr Cell Phone
Sell the coal to China and the rest of Asia - profit!
Posted on 4/11/25 at 8:00 pm to jclem11
Sure thing chief, you do understand this isn’t 1907 with eight year olds pushing track cars full of coal through poorly constructed mining tunnels with men swinging pick axes? Most mining today is performed using machinery and offers good paying jobs
Posted on 4/11/25 at 8:01 pm to Mr Cell Phone
Coal mining is a good, honest income. Lot of people would line up to be a miner.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 8:05 pm to Rip Torn
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Sure thing chief, you do understand this isn’t 1907 with eight year olds pushing track cars full of coal through poorly constructed mining tunnels with men swinging pick axes? Most mining today is performed using machinery and offers good paying jobs
Those jobs left for a reason. Noone is clamoring to go work in the frickin mines even if the robots do all the work.
If you want to force people back to the mines, you need to abolish all welfare programs.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 8:09 pm to jclem11
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Those jobs left for a reason
List them.
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need to abolish all welfare programs.
Agreed.
This post was edited on 4/11/25 at 8:10 pm
Posted on 4/11/25 at 8:21 pm to jclem11
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you need to abolish all welfare programs.
All for it.
Plenty of able bodied people out there. Around 30% of working age people don't have to pay federal income tax according to Grok.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 8:21 pm to Mr Cell Phone
There will be others to take their place.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 8:32 pm to jclem11
Yeah they did leave for a reason….it’s called shipping most steel production overseas and regulations on coal usage not better alternatives
Posted on 4/11/25 at 8:45 pm to Mr Cell Phone
Unlike most on here I have actually worked in a deep mine. Mines can be reopened and the decision to do so will be based on economics. High grade metallurgical coal like in the Appalachian coal field is higher BTU and lower sulfur than mid- continent or Powder River Basin coal.
Coal fired generation produces electricity, fly ash, bottom ash, cenospheres and synthetic gypsum. Fly Ash is used in concrete, bottom ash as a scouring material plus road embankments, cenospheres in make up products and synthetic gypsum in wallboard.
Coal fired generation is cheap compared to other sources and has a role to play in the 21st Century. Mines can be reopened based on engineering, economic, regulatory and infrastructure feasibility. Miners are well paid, much better than coders.
Coal fired generation produces electricity, fly ash, bottom ash, cenospheres and synthetic gypsum. Fly Ash is used in concrete, bottom ash as a scouring material plus road embankments, cenospheres in make up products and synthetic gypsum in wallboard.
Coal fired generation is cheap compared to other sources and has a role to play in the 21st Century. Mines can be reopened based on engineering, economic, regulatory and infrastructure feasibility. Miners are well paid, much better than coders.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:11 pm to Lynxrufus2012
Speaking of met coal, I recall we were bringing a trainload a week out of western Canada all the way to Chicago where it was interchanged for delivery to Gary IN iirc.
At the time I thought it unusual to be hauling met coal that far, and from a foreign country, but perhaps most of our mines were shut down by that point.
Canada ships a lot of met coal to China as well.
btw-Plants set up to burn sub-bituminous can't burn eastern coal without some substantial modifications as far as I was told.
At the time I thought it unusual to be hauling met coal that far, and from a foreign country, but perhaps most of our mines were shut down by that point.
Canada ships a lot of met coal to China as well.
btw-Plants set up to burn sub-bituminous can't burn eastern coal without some substantial modifications as far as I was told.
This post was edited on 4/11/25 at 9:13 pm
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:23 pm to Mr Cell Phone
America is on its way back b*tches, get on board or get the f*ck out of the way.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:43 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Coal in many of those areas is dying whether we want it or not.
Then let it die on its own, not as a result of bullshite environmental laws and global warming hysteria.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:49 pm to Dawgfanman
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I think the problem is we're unlikely to see an extensive rebuild of our coal-burning capacity and I've got to assume that most of that Asia Pacific is China and China is getting their's from their puppet state, North Korea. So we may not actually need to extract more coal unless we plan on selling it to Europe to help them get over losing Russia natural gas.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 11:07 pm to CubsFanBudMan
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Remove government regulations and let the market decide.
Which government regulations do we want to remove? I'm curious which ones we specifically want removed vs kept to keep coal viable.
Take global warming out of it and coal mining is still a nasty business that has lots of harmful shite going on to deal with. Also coal mining companies are notoriously shitty for workers and local community. There's not a huge investment in the community they suck up resources and gtfo.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 11:44 pm to tenderfoot tigah
quote:Are you concerned with China now?
Except the billion people coal still powers?
Coal only accounts for 16% of energy production in the US and will be close to zero in 15 years.
Should we invest in CD-Roms and VHS tapes as well? Maybe we can prop up some Blockbuster stores.
This post was edited on 4/11/25 at 11:49 pm
Posted on 4/11/25 at 11:46 pm to mmcgrath
The US still has over 200 coal plants.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 11:50 pm to BuckyCheese
quote:Small and outdated. 16% of energy production and dropping rapidly. Why would we possibly want to increase coal production?
The US still has over 200 coal plants.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 11:51 pm to mmcgrath
No, they are not all small and outdated progfilth.
Posted on 4/12/25 at 12:00 am to BuckyCheese
quote:Coal is going down in energy production in the US. Plants are being shut down every year and being replaced with different plants.
No, they are not all small and outdated progfilth.
These are facts. Why would we want to increase coal production in the US?
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