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re: Respect for Marriage Act passed by Senate. Goes to House for final vote.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:05 am to KAGTASTIC
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:05 am to KAGTASTIC
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Why I will forever loathe GWBush. He ran on the marriage amendment and he failed to get it done. Then we learn that he felt bad for Cheney's lesbo daughter. Now we are seeing the slide down the slippery slope.
Just one of many reasons to loathe GWBush.
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:07 am to JiminyCricket
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Not moving the goalposts at
So is a heterosexual married couple, that cannot have children, that are raising adopted children not a family in your eyes?
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:08 am to SOSFAN
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Gay citizens should have the same government legal rights as heteros otherwise it's discrimination
So? We discriminate against polygamists and gypsies who want to marry their 13 year old niece. Again, we STILL regulate who can and can't get married. Somewhere along the line people (not necessarily you) have begun to believe that "discrimination" is a magic bad word that's always wrong and always unconstitutional, whatever that means these days. It's not.
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and unconstitutional.
Legally, this is obviously correct. 5 people said it was unconstitutional so it is per the law. I don't think cultural moral norms are inherently "unconstitutional", and for over 200 years the rest of the country agreed. I think gay marriage would eventually have been passed the proper way, through the legislatures, but the end justifies the means for most of America these days.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:10 am to SOSFAN
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So is a heterosexual married couple, that cannot have children, that are raising adopted children not a family in your eyes?
Strawman
-Noun
an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument.
Once again my statement was that two lesbians or two gays cannot biologically reproduce. Are you going to attempt to argue that two men or two women can biologically reproduce without the absent egg or sperm depending on which couple we are examining?
This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 9:12 am
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:13 am to JiminyCricket
quote:In-depth analysis probably does sound like “word salad” to you.
word salad
If it won’t fit on a bumper sticker, you are confused.
This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 9:14 am
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:13 am to AggieHank86
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Not under this legislation, no.
It will help them sue and that’s why it’s bad and pointless legislation.
I have no issues with gay marriage but the only law that should be passed is simple..
The U.S. recognizes all applicable unions between two consenting adults regardless of race, religion or sexual orientation for the purposes of legal obligations
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:14 am to JiminyCricket
What does any of that have to do with marriage?
Answer this: Government issues marriage license so therefore marriage is a government right. Why should a property owning tax payer , that is gay, not be afforded the same legal rights as a heterosexual?
Answer this: Government issues marriage license so therefore marriage is a government right. Why should a property owning tax payer , that is gay, not be afforded the same legal rights as a heterosexual?
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:15 am to SOSFAN
quote:muh Bible.
Answer this: Government issues marriage license so therefore marriage is a government right. Why should a property owning tax payer , that is gay, not be afforded the same legal rights as a heterosexual?
The simple, sad fact is that a lot of Americans do not really WANT a secular government.
This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 9:19 am
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:15 am to TROLA
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that’s why it’s bad and pointless legislation.
That's the problem; it's probably NOT pointless.
Anybody who thinks this set of Dems in DC is interested in protecting the Christian church from the cultural wars is seriously mentally deficient.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:20 am to AggieHank86
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muh Bible.
Muh english language and tradition. Not that those are legally applicable...oh.
Nice to see Mr. "This is what the Bible really says." come clean, though. Confession is good for the soul, little buddy.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:20 am to AggieHank86
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The simple, sad fact is that a lot of Americans do not really WANT a secular government.
And?
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:23 am to LSUbest
I thought I heard states still don’t have to grant marriage, just respect it if they were married elsewhere. Which would go along with equal protection.
If I was married in Vermont, Louisiana should still recognize I’m married.
But the federal government can just do what they did with the drinking age and refuse to give you funds for not complying.
If I was married in Vermont, Louisiana should still recognize I’m married.
But the federal government can just do what they did with the drinking age and refuse to give you funds for not complying.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:26 am to JiminyCricket
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Once again my statement was that two lesbians or two gays cannot biologically reproduce. Are you going to attempt to argue that two men or two women can biologically reproduce without the absent egg or sperm depending on which couple we are examining?
Two women aren’t having sex and making a baby. But two lesbian women can get pregnant. They just find a donor.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:29 am to SOSFAN
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marriage was a Christian connection to God so should non-christians marriage not be legal?
Who's law are you referring to?
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:31 am to dgnx6
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But two lesbian women can get pregnant. They just find a donor.
I'm actually more in favor of gay adoption than marriage as long as it's not from the state. I am a big advocate for parental rights and if you want to give your kid to perverts to raise, that's on you. It's not in the states's interests for perverts to be raising kids.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:32 am to squid_hunt
quote:Those people claim to love America, and to love the Constitution, but (when it boils down) they love their superstitions even more.
The simple, sad fact is that a lot of Americans do not really WANT a secular government.quote:
And?
Nothing wrong with that. Just admit it.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:34 am to finchmeister08
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What does that bill do that’s not already deemed legal?
yeah, I'm for cutting most legislation, not adding to it.
We are already overly regulated.
This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 9:38 am
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:34 am to AggieHank86
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Nothing wrong with that. Just admit it.
The 14th was an abomination and needs to be repealed. If you want a state run by religious principles, it should be allowed. Just like the abortion discussion, we'll see how it plays out. Secularism is a fantasy of the French Revolution and we all saw how that played out.
This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 9:36 am
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:35 am to Pelican fan99
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Is there really any reason to oppose this bill? Some things just don’t seem worth the fight unless there is some hidden BS crammed in that I don’t know about
It is the slippery slope.
Wording is left vague so a bunch of queers can make your life hell if they do choose. Like they did with the baker.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:36 am to squid_hunt
quote:Kudos for the candor. Honestly.quote:If you want a state run by religious principles, it shoild be allowed. Just like the abortion discussion, we'll see how it plays out. Secularism is a fantasy of the French Revolution and we all saw how that played out.
Nothing wrong with that. Just admit it.
This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 9:37 am
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