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re: Republicans turning into PC police?
Posted on 2/10/17 at 2:51 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 2/10/17 at 2:51 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:
Ok #1 just because someone doesn't agree with your opinion that doesn't make them stupid, and #2 I think this idea that just because someone becomes famous they suddenly have a responsibility to not express their political options whenever THEY deem it be appropriate is completely asinine and yes it is a form of political correctness that you're pushing.
#1 - Lots of stupid people disagree with me. Lots of them are probably in the entertainment industry. But nowhere did I call them stupid for disagreeing with me. I called them stupid because most of them are really stupid.
#2 - Again, it's not the fricking argument. This is why arguing with liberals sucks, because it's all emotional ranting instead of any competently constructed retort.
Where did I say they have a responsibility not to express their opinion when/because they got famous? I didn't. My belief is that it's inappropriate to use your loyal audience as a built-in recipient of your political beliefs if they're not paying to hear your political beliefs. I'm not promoting censorship or the repression of any political opinions, you dolt.
BTW, genius, you just told me my opinion was asinine, which is a form of political correctness. All opinions are appropriate. Stop being such a snowflake.
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 2:51 pm to ballscaster
No chance this chart is reality. The outcry over Tom Brady simply having a hat was far louder than the outcry over Kaepernick trying to extend his career.
ETA: Did you see the outcry over Lady Gaga not mentioning politics at all? Maybe we should add the numbers of people from both sides who are offended when athletes DON'T make a political statement, at all, that each side agrees with. Liberals apparently hate that.
ETA: Did you see the outcry over Lady Gaga not mentioning politics at all? Maybe we should add the numbers of people from both sides who are offended when athletes DON'T make a political statement, at all, that each side agrees with. Liberals apparently hate that.
This post was edited on 2/10/17 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 2/10/17 at 2:51 pm to Scruffy
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That is why my general response in any thread where a celebrity gives their opinion on anything right or left, I post:
"Who cares. The clowns are there to dance for my entertainment."
And then I don't revisit the thread.
Well you seem to be in the minority of today's republicans.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 2:52 pm to JohnnyKilroy
quote:
it's also inappropriate for entertainers to tell their captive audience how they feel on the issues
What do you mean by captive audience?
Posted on 2/10/17 at 2:52 pm to therick711
quote:Precisely why I'm discouraging conservatives from playing the pussy "offended" game. If you're offended, you don't get to criticize others for being offended.
When conservatives stop listening to bullshite opinions and stop consuming their products, they are accused of being PC police or whatever bullshite. Now, we all know that the left doesn't know what terms mean, so they say whatever, but the point is, conservatives can't win in this type of shell game.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 2:52 pm to imjustafatkid
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The outcry over Tom Brady simply having a hat was far louder than the outcry over Kaepernick trying to extend his career.
Holy shite you cannot be serious.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 2:52 pm to Pettifogger
quote:melt
i feel dumbed for getting trolled
by you no less
Posted on 2/10/17 at 2:53 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Do you think this board would praise or denigrate an entertainer who spoke against Obama? Easier yes or no question.
This board? No.
Now if I go to a Toby Keith concert, I think it's absurd to cry about him being anti-Obama. Same for if I went to an REM concert.
At some point people know the score and can make up their minds. Similarly, at that point, I don't put much fault on artists for political ranting because people know what they're getting.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 2:53 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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They are human beings and Americans, no different than you or me.
Yet, they don't understand that themselves. Their smugness far outstrips Scruffy's little saying. The jester's greatest folly is believing that the King keeping him around elevates him to King.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 2:53 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:Also not true.
They are human beings and Americans, no different than you or me.
They are Americans who don't live within normal society who's opinions are given unearned weight, thus, in the eyes of the media and their fans, they are worth more to society than others.
Their opinions are worth as much as any other random stranger, and I treat them as such.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 2:54 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Posted on 2/10/17 at 2:54 pm to northshorebamaman
quote:
What do you mean by captive audience?
Their fans or whatever.
I just think it's funny that half this thread thinks it's inappropriate for entertainers to express their opinions because no one cares. The other half things it's inappropriate for entertainers to express their opinions because people care too much and they sway public opinion.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 2:54 pm to imjustafatkid
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The outcry over Tom Brady simply having a hat was far louder than the outcry over Kaepernick trying to extend his career.
So, is a hat sitting in a locker deemed an "athlete making a political statement"? I'm seriously trying to figure out what we're even talking about here. I see lots of references to Kapernick, but outside of that silliness, I'm seriously not aware of a lot of "athletes making political statements." Is there a flip side to him? Who?
Posted on 2/10/17 at 2:54 pm to Mohican
quote:This is you interjecting your superficial need for political neutrality into areas where free speech is encouraged.
The left interjects their politics into neutral areas
Posted on 2/10/17 at 2:55 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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They are human beings and Americans, no different than you or me.
We are all quite different. We have many different roles to fill, different levels of capability and influence, different levels of earned authority in regards to how our opinions are taken.
All animals are equal, dear friend, but some are more equal than others. This is immutable.
I'm not going to be offended or aghast when an entertainer express political opinions different than my own, but that doesn't mean I lend them equal respect in that particular sector towards someone I regard as an actual informed authority.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 2:55 pm to Pettifogger
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Where did I say they have a responsibility not to express their opinion when/because they got famous? I didn't. My belief is that it's inappropriate to use your loyal audience as a built-in recipient of your political beliefs if they're not paying to hear your political beliefs. I'm not promoting censorship or the repression of any political opinions, you dolt.
where did I accuse you of supporting censorship? You say it's inappropriate for them to express their views, which I interpreted as you saying they had a responsibility to not express their views. That doesn't sound like much of a leap to me but if you can explain to me why it is I'm happy to listen.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 2:55 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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You don't get to decide what a "neutral area" is or isn't
I'm in line at the grocery store or sitting next to you on a plane. Don't start lecturing me on politics in a condescending manner without expecting a reaction.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 2:55 pm to Scruffy
quote:Ironic.
I just don't see why people give their words some magical property as being important.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 2:56 pm to ballscaster
quote:Why is that ironic?
Ironic.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 2:56 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:
It comes off like you're just mad that more celebrities aren't conservative
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