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re: Republicans Fail to See the Biggest Issue Costing them Undecided Voters
Posted on 8/30/24 at 2:33 am to Indefatigable
Posted on 8/30/24 at 2:33 am to Indefatigable
quote:That doesn't apply to me or biblical Christianity generally.
And the alternative is the whims of a religious group of people who change their moral compass as it suits them.
quote:Again, a theocracy is not the only form of government that recognizes a creator and Lord. A theocracy proper is a government where the priests or religious rulers also wield the power of the sword in civil affairs. Christianity is quite compatible with multiple forms of government structure where a theocracy is not in place.
Not sure that there is a single historical example of a theocratic society surviving any longer than the secular ones.
But just to play the Devil's advocate for a second: when you abandon objective moral truth such as when one embraces secularism, you cannot say with any sort of rational basis that a theocratic government is "bad". The best you can do is say that it doesn't align with your particular preferences, and therefore, you may not personally like it.
quote:Biblical Christianity came before me and will exist after me. It alone offers even the possibility of objective moral reasoning and truth.
Why should we choose FooManChoo's religious beliefs to be beholden to over all of the others, or those that came before you?
quote:The value is in the control, itself. It's not mere "yelling". Advocacy exists because there is an expectation of at least the possibility of change, and even if not, there is value in doing what is right even if you are in the minority. The objective value, in particular, is the blessing of God as rewards in Heaven for being faithful to Him even in spite of the evil of the world that rejects what is true and right.
Such as? Quantify it. What is the value in yelling into the void at people that you don't and will never control?
quote:Not at all. Elections have consequences and federal elections impact far more than just the individual voting. There is impact in the sense of what laws and regulations are made (the legislative branch), how those laws are interpreted (the judicial branch), and how they are enforced (the executive branch). That is the very heart of our government.
If that is what people are doing when they vote in federal elections, then respectfully those people are ignorant beyond belief and have no concept of the government they choose to participate in.
quote:Whether or not I give my endorsement for a representative who doesn't truly represent me doesn't matter to the point I am making. And no, I'm not "assisting" Democrats by not voting for President any more than I am assisting Republicans by not voting for Harris.
You've already said that you'll assist Democrats (who are the greater of two evils by any objective measure under your preferred morality) by refusing to vote for the better candidate, so there is really nothing I can say on that point that will move the needle for you.
I'm not in this conversation to have my needle moved on this point.
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 2:37 am to RFK
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Two of these women are lawyers and one is an ER doctor, and as educated white women who want 1) fiscal responsibility but 2) social liberalism,
I’m calling complete bullshite on this, lol. I never heard a woman says she is worried about fiscal responsibility when it comes to government spending. The government is daddy.
Posted on 8/30/24 at 2:40 am to Indefatigable
quote:Morality in simple terms is being in accord with a standard for right action or conduct. Federal law, itself, exists as a standard for right action or conduct. Acting within the bounds of that standard is considered "good", and violating that standard is considered "bad". Laws and regulations are most certainly created all the time to enforce some form of morality. Federal laws and regulations pertaining to environmental impact in particular are pushed through, supposedly for the "good" of both mankind and for the planet. There is a moral component to it.
This is generally bullshite. The vast majority of federal law has zero implications or relation to morality.
The Democrats are running a platform that encourages voters to elect them in order to codify abortion "rights" at the federal level precisely because they believe it's immoral to remove those "rights" in any state. Tax law and economic policy are enacted with a common justification of what is "right" and "just" for our society. You can't escape the moral component of laws just because you want secularism. All you're doing is trading a religious worldview for a non-religious worldview, but you'll still have morality as part of the society you build.
Posted on 8/30/24 at 2:52 am to RFK
As soon as you said “2 of them are Lawyers”
that sums it up why they are Dumbocrats l!!!!
Leeches that created this whole mess
that sums it up why they are Dumbocrats l!!!!
Leeches that created this whole mess
Posted on 8/30/24 at 3:10 am to RFK
Fun fact…No one has ever gotten pregnant having anal. Stop killing babies and take it in the stink wrinkle!
Posted on 8/30/24 at 3:24 am to RFK
Two of these are lawyers and they don't understand that this is a state issue per the Constitution? Really? They don't know that and are just going on their feels? Damn, where'd they go to law school?
Posted on 8/30/24 at 3:36 am to RFK
quote:Other than extremely rare instances, abortion is not health care.
I personally fail to see how involving the government in a healthcare decision like abortion is any different from forcing vaccines on people (which these women, especially the ER physician, did not support). Regardless, the GOP should stop dragging themselves down with this issue for political reasons
Want to know your wife and sister in laws REAL opinion on it? Ask them why killing a child is ever a good idea. Ask yourself while you’re at it.
Posted on 8/30/24 at 4:02 am to RFK
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But they see the issue not necessarily as one of a decision to have an abortion or not, but as a politician making a choice for them that they feel should be their’s to make, whatever that choice may be.
What the frick is unique about that complaint?
Politicians make choices for everyone. They choose how much of my earned money I can keep. They choose what kind of vehicles I can buy. They choose when I can buy beer. They choose what kind of health insurance I can buy. They choose the minimum I can pay people. They choose what kind of light bulbs I can own, what type of guns I can have. They choose what countries I can travel to and a million other things.
And if you want to talk about bodily autonomy choices aimed at one sex, how about my government can force men's bodies to be shredded by bullets and bombs in case of war.
How's that for a bodily autonomy complaint?
Everybody has something to bitch about. Your women acquaintances are not special.
This post was edited on 8/30/24 at 4:14 am
Posted on 8/30/24 at 4:13 am to RFK
Tell your women that they don't support Democracy. The USSC put it back to they States where it belongs, because Calif and NY should not be telling everyone how to live.
Posted on 8/30/24 at 4:16 am to RFK
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But the fact the race is as close as it is, and that educated white women are likely going to decide this election, is proof the GOP is in the Stone Age while the democrats are taking advantage.
A rationalization is a rationalization is a rationalization.
Your relatives, educated as they may be, are more invested in their pride and ego than the overall good of the country. Sad, but true.
Eventually, the communists will come for them too....
Posted on 8/30/24 at 4:20 am to RFK
Well then, they should be tickled pink that they have the right to live in any state where the legislature of that state approves of abortion. Especially if they are lawyers and understand how Constitutional law works and respect The Rule of Law. You might also want to reconsider the idea that extending the right to LIVE to an unborn baby is living in the Stone Age. I think there was probably significantly more respect for the life of a baby in The Stone Age. Mothers probably fought to the death to protect them rather than slicing them into pieces.
Legit, I hope the two evilcounts you mention keep voting Democrat. I can only take so much white professional Womanese. I prefer critical thinking.
Good God, I gotta get away from these morally bankrupt, used up trollops.
Legit, I hope the two evilcounts you mention keep voting Democrat. I can only take so much white professional Womanese. I prefer critical thinking.
Good God, I gotta get away from these morally bankrupt, used up trollops.
Posted on 8/30/24 at 4:21 am to RFK
Just say they are ok with baby murder and be done with it. There's no argument for abortion anymore with the amount of contraceptives on the market today. Not that there was one before. Abortions aren't health care. They are the murder of innocent children.
Posted on 8/30/24 at 4:23 am to Cosmo
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healthcare decision like abortion is any different from forcing vaccines
here is a scale put vaccine on one side and killing life (aka abortion) on the other. now do you see the gravity of one?
if not then here is a test, hold your breath till you die as your logic is applied. you will die one day so do the world a favor today.
Posted on 8/30/24 at 4:43 am to RFK
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They're more likely to not vote at all, and so are millions of voters like them
May as well vote for the communists. I can't respect these women.
Posted on 8/30/24 at 4:47 am to RFK
quote:
But they see the issue not necessarily as one of a decision to have an abortion or not, but as a politician making a choice for them that they feel should be their’s to make, whatever that choice may be.
I disagree. Their social cicles and being ostracized from them is the driving factor for many. Many of these women would follow their husbands on these issues if it wasn't for their friends forcing them to act like it is an issue
Posted on 8/30/24 at 4:48 am to RFK
Then frick it let the country get destroyed. These soft, godless white women are going to get what they deserve in the new utopia.
Posted on 8/30/24 at 4:52 am to RFK
No my friend you have it backwards, still having abortions when there are numerous contraceptions available to both men and women is the real “Stone Age” part. I work with and have worked with hundreds of doctors over the years and there are just as many who have zero common sense as any other profession.
Posted on 8/30/24 at 4:56 am to RFK
You either have values and principles or you don’t. Abortion is murder and it infringes on the rights of another human being.
Posted on 8/30/24 at 5:06 am to RFK
Women are upset that they might not be able to kill babies.
Women are ok with men playing in their sports.
Women are cra cra.
Women are ok with men playing in their sports.
Women are cra cra.
Posted on 8/30/24 at 5:12 am to RFK
A president or any US congressman should not even discuss abortion. It’s not their business to decide.
Simple:
Question:
Do you support abortion?
Answer:
It doesn’t matter what I support this is a states issue to decide.
That is it. Don’t say anything about it.
Simple:
Question:
Do you support abortion?
Answer:
It doesn’t matter what I support this is a states issue to decide.
That is it. Don’t say anything about it.
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