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re: Reports coming in: A lab in San Diego has developed a covid-19 vaccine
Posted on 2/12/20 at 10:34 pm to 14&Counting
Posted on 2/12/20 at 10:34 pm to 14&Counting
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When Chinese scientists released the genetic sequence on Jan. 9, Inovio researchers got to work immediately and within 3 hours they had a vaccine for coronavirus, or COVID-19 as it is now being referred to
So.
January 9, they get the sequence
3 hours later on January 9 they have the vaccine
Over 30 days later a local news website talks about how there is a vaccine for coronovirus
....odd
This post was edited on 2/12/20 at 10:35 pm
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 10:40 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
That’s a Dr. SMITH saving the world.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 10:41 pm to Indefatigable
quote:
Off topic, but the British giving up Hong Kong is the most shortsighted, bitch-move decision in the recent history of western civilization
You forgot Jimmie Carter amd the Panama Canal.
This post was edited on 2/12/20 at 10:43 pm
Posted on 2/13/20 at 4:15 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
1) this is not a proven effective vaccine.
2) it’s an algorithm based guess at what would work. We’ve seen the effectiveness of these algorithms with the flu and it is extremely hit or miss.
3) they haven’t made this yet, but are claiming to have it.
It’s pathetic what some companies will do to try and get publicity during a tragedy.
I hope it works, but I am extremely cautious about buying into this.
2) it’s an algorithm based guess at what would work. We’ve seen the effectiveness of these algorithms with the flu and it is extremely hit or miss.
3) they haven’t made this yet, but are claiming to have it.
It’s pathetic what some companies will do to try and get publicity during a tragedy.
I hope it works, but I am extremely cautious about buying into this.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 4:57 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
But how diverse was the group that developed it? If it wasn’t a majority minorities I don’t want it
Posted on 2/13/20 at 5:36 am to Geauxgurt
Inovio is definitely playing fast and loose with terminology. They don't have a vaccine for any of those viruses, they have POTENTIAL vaccines. None are tested, proven safe and effective, or approved by any regulatory agency.
Phase I (first-in-human) trials comes next. Small numbers, less than 100 subjects total usually. Only thing you learn from that is if vaccine probably will or will not kill you directly, and if ever-increasing doses create the immune response they *think* may be effective.
That needs to be followed by larger more convincing studies, looking at appropriate dosing regimen (one shot or a series for example) and some hints at efficacy and longer term safety before any regulatory agency will look at it.
Then it takes time to prove that a vaccine works ... remember, it's not something you can measure immediately. You have to immunize subjects at risk (some with the real product, some with placebo), let them go about their normal lives, and over time see if less people receiving the real vaccine develop the disease than those getting placebo.
This all takes time, even with a motivated and well-funded government/pharma company/population.
Inovio developed a covid-19 vaccine candidate in 3 hours, now time to prove if it works.
Phase I (first-in-human) trials comes next. Small numbers, less than 100 subjects total usually. Only thing you learn from that is if vaccine probably will or will not kill you directly, and if ever-increasing doses create the immune response they *think* may be effective.
That needs to be followed by larger more convincing studies, looking at appropriate dosing regimen (one shot or a series for example) and some hints at efficacy and longer term safety before any regulatory agency will look at it.
Then it takes time to prove that a vaccine works ... remember, it's not something you can measure immediately. You have to immunize subjects at risk (some with the real product, some with placebo), let them go about their normal lives, and over time see if less people receiving the real vaccine develop the disease than those getting placebo.
This all takes time, even with a motivated and well-funded government/pharma company/population.
Inovio developed a covid-19 vaccine candidate in 3 hours, now time to prove if it works.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 5:53 am to shell01
I thought viral infections simply had to run its course?
Posted on 2/13/20 at 6:43 am to Indefatigable
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But unless and until the lab referenced in the OP develops a vaccine for the common cold, seasonal flu, etc....there is no vaccine for ‘coronavirus’
And you know this how???
I'm under the impression there is a vaccine flu. At least that's what the nurse told me when she gave me the shot...so far for me no flu....
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