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Reminder, Trump's reciprocity tariff policy includes ZERO tariffs.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:13 am
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:13 am
If you take it to zero, we'll take it to zero.
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Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:15 am to GumboPot
Thats what funny, China cutting of their nose to spite their face.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:17 am to GumboPot
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Reminder, Trump's reciprocity tariff policy includes ZERO tariffs.
His tariff policy isn't just about tariffs. You know this. They floated tariff reciprocity because it's objective and makes sense to people, but now the formula includes trade deficits, currency manipulation, "unfair" labor, etc etc etc.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:18 am to GumboPot
Conflicting message when Navarro said zero was not enough for Vietnam. Just ignore Navarro I guess.
However, if they are all at zero then there is zero incentive for creating manufacturing jobs in the US when costs are inherently cheaper overseas.
However, if they are all at zero then there is zero incentive for creating manufacturing jobs in the US when costs are inherently cheaper overseas.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:18 am to Flats
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They floated tariff reciprocity because it's objective and makes sense to people, but now the formula includes trade deficits, currency manipulation, "unfair" labor, etc etc etc.
Yeah, tariffs are only one aspect of a trade deal. I don't disagree.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:26 am to Barstools
quote:china is a-hole.
Thats what funny, China cutting of their nose to spite their face.
they are trying so hard to save face after fricking american imports for decades
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:27 am to GumboPot
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Yeah, tariffs are only one aspect of a trade deal. I don't disagree.
Just stop. Tariff reciprocity is exactly what it sounds like. If you want to invoke stuff like "fairness" and still have a 10% tariff on them when they have 0% on us that's fine, just make the case and don't pretend it's something it's not.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:28 am to Flats
quote:its not always vaginal penetration; these other countries have abused our arse, mouth, ears, eye sockets...
They floated tariff reciprocity because it's objective and makes sense to people, but now the formula includes trade deficits, currency manipulation, "unfair" labor, etc etc etc.
a rose by any other name is still a rose
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:29 am to AGGIES
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However, if they are all at zero then there is zero incentive for creating manufacturing jobs in the US when costs are inherently cheaper overseas.
I think we're just sorta pretending that's not the case.
Today, anyway.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:32 am to Flats
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I think we're just sorta pretending that's not the case. Today, anyway.
Sure.
But how would someone like Bassent believe this?
I don’t think he does.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:53 am to GumboPot
Tariffs, or Trump's version of tariffs which includes trade deficits?
Big difference.
Big difference.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:53 am to GumboPot
If we get a reciprocal trade policy with everyone, manufacturing stays where it is, and doesn't come back to the US. This would be Trump going against a big promise to American workers.
By the way, all of the posts here about Bessent really crack me up.
He went to Yale (which you guys hate), he is gay (which you guys hate)...and, and this is the whopper...he spent the bulk of his career with SOROS FUND MANAGEMENT. He ran the London office for Soros. I am shocked that so many of you are fine with a Soros guy as Treasury Secretary.
By the way, all of the posts here about Bessent really crack me up.
He went to Yale (which you guys hate), he is gay (which you guys hate)...and, and this is the whopper...he spent the bulk of his career with SOROS FUND MANAGEMENT. He ran the London office for Soros. I am shocked that so many of you are fine with a Soros guy as Treasury Secretary.
This post was edited on 4/9/25 at 11:57 am
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:56 am to AGGIES
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Conflicting message when Navarro said zero was not enough for Vietnam. Just ignore Navarro I guess. However, if they are all at zero then there is zero incentive for creating manufacturing jobs in the US when costs are inherently cheaper overseas.
Peter Retardo was trying to say it’s not good enough to go to zero. There are still barriers not allowing us to successfully market American products.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:01 pm to SneezyBeltranIsHere
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He went to Yale (which you guys hate), he is gay (whcih you guys hate)
Actually it's mostly you that we hate !
Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:05 pm to GumboPot
We’re on the cusp of fully automated manufacturing for pretty much everything. Might as well have those next generation factories here.
IMO, this is less about bringing back the American “worker”, and more about bringing in the future of American “manufacturing”.
Automation levels the playing field in terms of worker pay, while assuring that we’re manufacturing critical products here in the US.
IMO, this is less about bringing back the American “worker”, and more about bringing in the future of American “manufacturing”.
Automation levels the playing field in terms of worker pay, while assuring that we’re manufacturing critical products here in the US.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:05 pm to cajuntiger1010
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There are still barriers not allowing us to successfully market American products.
Summary of America addressing Vietnam regarding these barriers
Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:07 pm to GumboPot
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If you take it to zero, we'll take it to zero.
Trump's tariffs are not based upon other countries having imposed tariffs. Many of the countries on the list don't impose tariffs on their US imports.
How would this be determined in the balance of trade formula, which is the actual phony baloney basis for Trump's tariffs?
Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:19 pm to GumboPot
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If you take it to zero, we'll take it to zero.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:21 pm to Flats
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His tariff policy isn't just about tariffs. You know this. They floated tariff reciprocity because it's objective and makes sense to people, but now the formula includes trade deficits, currency manipulation, "unfair" labor, etc etc etc.
It does, as it should. BTW, three etceteras mean the same as one.
This post was edited on 4/9/25 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:23 pm to Penrod
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It does, as it should.
So why pretend it's about reciprocal tariffs?
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