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Remember 50 intel officials said Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation? Uh oh

Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:53 am
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61309 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:53 am
One of them just said it was obviously real

quote:

One of the signatories of the now-discredited open letter attempting to discredit the findings from the Hunter Biden laptop made a stunning admission more than two years after it surfaced in the public eye.

Douglas Wise, a former Defense Intelligence Agency deputy director and former senior CIA operations officer, was among the over 50 former intel officials who claimed that the content of the laptop first reported by the New York Post in October 2020 "has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation."

But in an interview with The Australian published Sunday, Wise now admits most of what was found in the reported emails had to be based in reality.

fox news



Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118847 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 12:00 pm to
The deep state has had enough of Biden, confirmed.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29169 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 12:02 pm to
Lol no shite it was real and the left showed just how easily manipulated they are over it.
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
11712 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 12:02 pm to
The deal was probably for old creepy to resign, but he lied and reneged like everything else in his life.

"doctor" Jill probably won't let him.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 12:04 pm to
Tigerdoc says this guy is obviously a Russian agent
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28428 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 12:08 pm to
-Mike Hayden, former CIA director, now analyst for CNN
-Jim Clapper, former director of national intelligence, now CNN pundit
-Leon Panetta, former CIA director and defense secretary
-John Brennan, former CIA director, now analyst for NBC and MSNBC
-Thomas Fingar, former National Intelligence Council chair, now teaches at Stanford University
-Rick Ledgett, former National Security Agency deputy director, now a director at M&T Bank
-John McLaughlin, former CIA acting director, now teaches at Johns Hopkins University
-Michael Morell, former CIA acting director, now at George Mason University
-Mike Vickers, former defense undersecretary for intelligence, now on board of BAE Systems
-Doug Wise, former Defense Intelligence Agency deputy director, teaches at University of New Mexico
-Nick Rasmussen, former National Counterterrorism Center director, now executive director, Global Internet Forum to Counter Terrorism
-Russ Travers, former National Counterterrorism Center acting director
-Andy Liepman, former National Counterterrorism Center deputy director
-John Moseman, former CIA chief of staf
-Larry Pfeiffer, former CIA chief of staff, now senior advisor to The Chertoff Group
-Jeremy Bash, former CIA chief of staff, now analyst for NBC and MSNBC
-Rodney Snyder, former CIA chief of staff
-Glenn Gerstell, former National Security Agency general counsel
-David Priess, former CIA analyst and manager
-Pam Purcilly, former CIA deputy director of analysis
-Marc Polymeropoulos, former CIA senior operations officer
-Chris Savos, former CIA senior operations officer
-John Tullius, former CIA senior intelligence officer
-David A. Vanell, former CIA senior operations officer
-Kristin Wood, former CIA senior intelligence officer, now non-resident fellow, Harvard
-David Buckley, former CIA inspector general
-Nada Bakos, former CIA analyst and targeting officer, now senior fellow, Foreign Policy Research Institute
-Patty Brandmaier, former CIA senior intelligence officer
-James B. Bruce, former CIA senior intelligence office
-David Cariens, former CIA intelligence analyst
-Janice Cariens, former CIA operational support officer
-Paul Kolbe, former CIA senior operations officer
-Peter Corsell, former CIA analyst
-Brett Davis, former CIA senior intelligence officer
-Roger Zane George, former national intelligence officer:
-Steven L. Hall, former CIA senior intelligence officer
-Kent Harrington, former national intelligence officer
-Don Hepburn, former national security executive, now president of Boanerges Solutions LLC
-Timothy D. Kilbourn, former dean of CIA’s Kent School of Intelligence Analysis
Ron Marks, former CIA officer
-Jonna Hiestand Mendez, former CIA technical operations officer, now on board of the International Spy Museum
-Emile Nakhleh, former director of CIA’s Political Islam Strategic Analysis Program, now at University of New Mexico
-Gerald A. O’Shea, former CIA senior operations officer
-Nick Shapiro, former CIA deputy chief of staff and senior adviser to the director
-John Sipher, former CIA senior operations officer
-Stephen Slick, former National Security Council senior director for intelligence programs
-Cynthia Strand, former CIA deputy assistant director for global issues
-Greg Tarbell, former CIA deputy executive director
-David Terry, former National Intelligence Collection Board chairman
-Greg Treverton, former National Intelligence Council chair, now senior adviser at the Center for Strategic and International Studies
-Winston Wiley, former CIA director of analysis
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
60054 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 12:12 pm to
That's a good list to start the MIL trials with.
Posted by riverparish
Member since Dec 2007
1171 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

The deal was probably for old creepy to resign, but he lied and reneged like everything else in his life.


i'm thinking the same thing. i honestly believe he was supposed to serve one term then be done. when he announced that he was going to run again, the D machine (with obama calling the shots), is doing everything they can to take him out.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146917 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 12:16 pm to
Spies who lie: 51 ‘intelligence’ experts refuse to apologize for discrediting true Hunter Biden story

Do the officials who tried to flip the 2020 election feel any regret for their actions? The Post reached out to those who signed the letter. Most would not answer the question. A few doubled-down, including Clapper. No remorse. No shame. And no apologies:

Mike Hayden, former CIA director, now analyst for CNN: Didn’t respond.

Jim Clapper, former director of national intelligence, now CNN pundit: “Yes, I stand by the statement made AT THE TIME, and would call attention to its 5th paragraph. I think sounding such a cautionary note AT THE TIME was appropriate.”

Leon Panetta, former CIA director and defense secretary, now runs a public policy institute at California State University: Declined comment.

John Brennan, former CIA director, now analyst for NBC and MSNBC: Didn’t respond.

Thomas Fingar, former National Intelligence Council chair, now teaches at Stanford University: Didn’t respond.

Rick Ledgett, former National Security Agency deputy director, now a director at M&T Bank: Didn’t respond.

John McLaughlin, former CIA acting director, now teaches at Johns Hopkins University: Didn’t respond.

Michael Morell, former CIA acting director, now at George Mason University: Didn’t respond.

Mike Vickers, former defense undersecretary for intelligence, now on board of BAE Systems: Didn’t respond.
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Doug Wise, former Defense Intelligence Agency deputy director, teaches at University of New Mexico: Didn’t respond.

Nick Rasmussen, former National Counterterrorism Center director, now executive director, Global Internet Forum to Counter Terrorism: Didn’t respond.

Russ Travers, former National Counterterrorism Center acting director: “The letter explicitly stated that we didn’t know if the emails were genuine, but that we were concerned about Russian disinformation efforts. I spent 25 years as a Soviet/Russian analyst. Given the context of what the Russians were doing at the time (and continue to do — Ukraine being just the latest example), I considered the cautionary warning to be prudent.”

Andy Liepman, former National Counterterrorism Center deputy director: “As far as I know I do [stand by the statement] but I’m kind of busy right now.”

John Moseman, former CIA chief of staff: Didn’t respond.

Larry Pfeiffer, former CIA chief of staff, now senior advisor to The Chertoff Group: Didn’t respond.

Jeremy Bash, former CIA chief of staff, now analyst for NBC and MSNBC: Didn’t respond.

Rodney Snyder, former CIA chief of staff: Didn’t respond.

Glenn Gerstell, former National Security Agency general counsel: Didn’t respond.

David Priess, former CIA analyst and manager: “Thank you for reaching out. I have no further comment at this time.”

Pam Purcilly, former CIA deputy director of analysis: Didn’t respond.

Marc Polymeropoulos, former CIA senior operations officer: Didn’t respond.

Former Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta declined to discuss the revelations of The Post’s Hunter Biden story.

Chris Savos, former CIA senior operations officer: Didn’t respond.

John Tullius, former CIA senior intelligence officer: Didn’t respond.

David A. Vanell, former CIA senior operations officer: Didn’t respond.

Kristin Wood, former CIA senior intelligence officer, now non-resident fellow, Harvard: Didn’t respond.

David Buckley, former CIA inspector general: Didn’t respond.

Nada Bakos, former CIA analyst and targeting officer, now senior fellow, Foreign Policy Research Institute: Didn’t respond.

Patty Brandmaier, former CIA senior intelligence officer: Didn’t respond.

James B. Bruce, former CIA senior intelligence office: Didn’t respond.

David Cariens, former CIA intelligence analyst: Didn’t respond.

Janice Cariens, former CIA operational support officer: Didn’t respond.

Paul Kolbe, former CIA senior operations officer: Didn’t respond.

Peter Corsell, former CIA analyst: Didn’t respond.

Brett Davis, former CIA senior intelligence officer: Didn’t respond.

Roger Zane George, former national intelligence officer: Didn’t respond.

Steven L. Hall, former CIA senior intelligence officer: Didn’t respond.

Kent Harrington, former national intelligence officer: Didn’t respond.

Don Hepburn, former national security executive, now president of Boanerges Solutions LLC: “My position has not changed any. I believe the Russians made a huge effort to alter the course of the election . . . The Russians are masters of blending truth and fiction and making something feel incredibly real when it’s not. Nothing I have seen really changes my opinion. I can’t tell you what part is real and what part is fake, but the thesis still stands for me, that it was a media influence hit job.”

Timothy D. Kilbourn, former dean of CIA’s Kent School of Intelligence Analysis: Didn’t respond.

Ron Marks, former CIA officer: Didn’t respond.

Jonna Hiestand Mendez, former CIA technical operations officer, now on board of the International Spy Museum: “I don’t have any comment. I would need a little more information.”

Emile Nakhleh, former director of CIA’s Political Islam Strategic Analysis Program, now at University of New Mexico: “I have not seen any information since then that would alter the decision behind signing the letter. That’s all I can go into. The whole issue was highly politicized and I don’t want to deal with that. I still stand by that letter.”

Gerald A. O’Shea, former CIA senior operations officer: Didn’t respond.

Nick Shapiro, former CIA deputy chief of staff and senior adviser to the director: Didn’t respond.

John Sipher, former CIA senior operations officer: Declined to comment.

Stephen Slick, former National Security Council senior director for intelligence programs: Didn’t respond.

Cynthia Strand, former CIA deputy assistant director for global issues: Didn’t respond.

Greg Tarbell, former CIA deputy executive director: Didn’t respond.

David Terry, former National Intelligence Collection Board chairman: Couldn’t be reached.

Greg Treverton, former National Intelligence Council chair, now senior adviser at the Center for Strategic and International Studies: “I’ll pass. I haven’t followed the case recently.”
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94552 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 12:39 pm to
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Cowards
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20024 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

Greg Treverton, former National Intelligence Council chair, now senior adviser at the Center for Strategic and International Studies: “I’ll pass. I haven’t followed the case recently.”


This type of response infuriates me. When people take an extremely strong and influential position, then pressed later “oh I don’t pay much attention to those things”. Well then maybe you shouldn’t have opened your mouth in the first place.
Posted by Mike Honcho
North Dallas
Member since Oct 2007
2920 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 1:04 pm to
So 50 people who made their careers lying and trying to destabilize countries against their will, lied and tried to destabilize a country against it's will. This is my shocked face.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
24829 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

Douglas Wise, a former Defense Intelligence Agency deputy director and former senior CIA operations officer

quote:

Wise now admits most of what was found in the reported emails had to be based in reality.

Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17712 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 2:39 pm to
The fact that this many intel officials all got together to claim this was "Russian disinformation" told me that it was a completely true story that could have devastating impacts on Biden's election.

Too many morons in this country believe the TV.
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