re: Religious Leaders Told to 'Prepare Now' for UFO Disclosure and 'Bible-Changing' Revelation

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I’m disappointed in you. You seem to have given up.

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I haven't. I just have a lot going on these days and your lies and ignorance can wait to be addressed.

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Maybe you finally realized the source of the subject matter of the sin of the angels, judgement of the angels by the righteousness humans, angels in darkness and chains awaiting judgement in the New Testament is all from 1 Enoch and isn’t contained within the Old Testament at all.

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You assume 1 Enoch is the source rather than it providing a common understanding.

At the end of the day, only the Bible is God's infallible word. 1 Enoch is not.

It's 'he said - she said' from here forward.

Sidenote: Steve Bannon and Joe Allen are on the cutting edge of the Religious/Spiritual/Biblical/Scientific dialogue re what is coming down. Heavy stuff just like on this Forum.

Seems it's all going to depend on just what form of Awareness/Self is considered 'legitimate'. The Human (Artificial) version, or the Natural (God) version. They focus on a Scripture in Mark wherein the 'identity' of the 'counterfeit' AntiChrist can be defined.

The Kingdom of God on Earth is at hand. "All things happen for the good of them that LOVE God". And any who say that "they love God, but do not love their fellow man, is a liar and the truth is not in them".

Ultimately, it's all about LOVE. And the Mercy via Jesus Christ that flows from it. IMO.

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You assume 1 Enoch is the source rather than it providing a common understanding.

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These are some inconvenient facts for you:
1. The oldest copies of 1 Enoch that archeologists have unearthed or discovered are as old as the oldest copies of canonical Old Testament books ever discovered.
2. All the references to angels sinning, judgement of angels, angels in chains and darkness, etc. in Christian literature - none of that material is found in the canonical Old Testament. It however is contained within 1 Enoch.
3. The book we call 1 Enoch was widespread from Greece to Anatolia to Syria to Israel to Egypt to Ethiopia. Ancient copies were found in Greek, Aramaic, Syriac, Latin, Coptic, and Gaez.
4. In the Dead Sea scrolls collection at Qumran, that sect (likely Essenes) had more copies of 1 Enoch than all books of the canonical Old Testament except Deuteronomy and the Psalms. It was very highly valued by them.

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your lies and ignorance can wait to be addressed.

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Psychological projection.

Sad.

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At the end of the day, only the Bible is God's infallible word.

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Do you understand that this is an empty, baseless assertion? How do you “know” that “the Bible” is God’s infallible word? First you make the presumption that your specific God character is a real figure and isn’t imaginary, without evidence to back it up. You are simply a slave to the Roman Catholic Church and John Calvin. They made the canon, and then you believe what you are spoon fed. You now have a dogma, and you “defend” it with vicious circular logic. You know it is God’s word because it is in the Bible, and you know it is the Bible because it is God’s word. It’s not enough to persuade or convince anyone who doesn’t already have that same dogma.

Most of Christian literature - around 90% of it - is pseudepigrapha. You would agree with me on that. There are no less than about 50 gospels of Jesus Christ that have been discovered. You are “absolutely positive” that exactly 4 of those 50 are the inerrant word of your deity, and you reject the other 46. But in doing so you have to admit that the vast majority of early Christian literature is forgeries and fairy tales. I simply take it a step further and realize that 50 of the 50 are all fairy tales.

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1 Enoch is not.

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And it’s only because 4th century Catholics rejected it because of their own ignorance on the history of “the Jews”. They adopted the Jewish canon of the Rabbinic Judaism sect (evolved Phariseeism). The other Jewish sects such as the Essenes were exterminated and their canon wasn’t preserved until modern people started to dig it up a hundred years ago.

Missing UFO-Linked Air Force General Had Dinner with Space Force Members Hours Before Disappearing

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Authorities say Retired Air Force Maj. Gen. William Neil McCasland, 68, vanished from his Albuquerque home on February 27 under circumstances that have raised serious questions, especially given his history with advanced military research and longstanding UFO speculation surrounding one of America’s most secretive bases.

On Wednesday, Law & Crime released bodycam audio of a woman telling law enforcement that McCasland had dinner with Space Force members just hours before he disappeared." target="_blank" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Authorities say Retired Air Force Maj. Gen. William Neil McCasland, 68, vanished from his Albuquerque home on February 27 under circumstances that have raised serious questions, especially given his history with advanced military research and longstanding UFO speculation surrounding one of America’s most secretive bases.

On Wednesday, Law & Crime released bodycam audio of a woman telling law enforcement that McCasland had dinner with Space Force members just hours before he disappeared.

The following 10 US scientists have died or gone missing over the past few years

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2026/05/missing-ufo-linked-air-force-general-had-dinner/

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Yeah, it actually does.

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Nope

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In Genesis 12:3 (Abram's initial call by God), it says, "in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed."

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What do you think this means? Every family on the spherical rocky planet third from the sun? Hardly. Since you take this out of context, allow me to show the context.

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1Now the LORD said to Abram, “Go from your land and your kindred and your father’s house to the land that I will show you. 2And I will make of you a great nation, and I will bless you and make your name great, so that you will be a blessing. 3I will bless those who bless you, and him who dishonors you I will curse, and in you all the families of the earth(red dirt) shall be blessed.”

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So God is going to make a singular nation for Abraham’s descendants and all of his descendants (future families) who live on the red dirt will be blessed. Not the modern concept of the whole spherical earth. No, the context is the land Abraham is given, the specific land called the red dirt (essentially the same word used for the nation of Edom or of the first man - Adam - in Genesis. Adam is called “red dirt” because Yahweh formed him from the “red dirt”.

How can we tell the red dirt refers to the specific land given to Abraham for him and his descendants? It explains if you read further:

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4So Abram went, as the LORD had told him, and Lot went with him. Abram was seventy-five years old when he departed from Haran. 5And Abram took Sarai his wife, and Lot his brother’s son, and all their possessions that they had gathered, and the people that they had acquired in Haran, and they set out to go to the land of Canaan. When they came to the land of Canaan, 6Abram passed through the land to the place at Shechem, to the oak of Moreh. At that time the Canaanites were in the land. 7Then the LORD appeared to Abram and said, “To your offspring I will give this land.” So he built there an altar to the LORD, who had appeared to him.

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And the red dirt “adamah” is squarely within the land of Canaan - and is the namesake of the nation of Edom.

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Again in chapter 17, God says to him, "Behold, my covenant is with you, and you shall be the father of a multitude of nations. No longer shall your name be called Abram, but your name shall be Abraham, for I have made you the father of a multitude of nations. I will make you exceedingly fruitful, and I will make you into nations, and kings shall come from you."

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So what? It isn’t ALL the nations of earth. It’s the nations of the land of Canaan at the time the author wrote or within recent memory. Israel, Judah, Edom, Moab, and Ammon.

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Multiple nations

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Yes the descendants of the fictional Abraham

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All families of the earth

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absolutely not, at least not “planet Earth”. The context is the red dirt land of Canaan.

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Christians have always understood the fulfillment of these promises to be Jesus Christ, and the salvation He brings to the nations.

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That concept is contained within 1 Enoch. You have a very slight tidbit that maybe could be argued is a hint in Isaiah. But most of the canonical Old Testament shows Yahweh didn’t give a shite about any other nations besides Israel/judah. It’s 1 Enoch that contains the major theme of the salvation of all nations, not just Israel and Judah.

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You just need to read the text. I've given you some help by quoting part of it for you.

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There’s that projection we talked about.

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Chapter 12 does not include a blessing to the other nations (goyim).

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Verse 3 is such a blessing.

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It is not. The word you are confused about is Strong’s 4940 “mishpachah” which is normally translated as “families”. It is not “goy” or “goyim” (nations).

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Gen. 15:5 and pretty much the entire chapter 17 speak to the confirmation of the blessings of the nations from chapter 12.

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Well neither of those chapters contains the word “nations” and if you argue they are modifying chapter 12, then the nations they are referring to is the inheritance of Yahweh - the land given to Abraham only in the land of Canaan.

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Time and time again, you are shown to be nothing but hot air.

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Let the hate flow.

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You lie and twist the Bible to attempt to discredit it while

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I don’t lie, I don’t twist, but I do more than attempt to discredit it.

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while I simply interpret it the same way Christians have for 2,000 years

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You presume there was a single unified Christianity, and are wrong. If they were all united, there would have been no reason for the epistles of first and second John and second Peter and “Against Heresies” and all the ecumenical councils throughout history. You certainly hate facts.

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You are a liar and will be damned with all other liars if you do not turn from your wickedness and bow to your creator, Jesus Christ.

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And you’re a hateful person, and align well with the Jesus of Revelation.

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These are some inconvenient facts for you:

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Nothing inconvenient about these. You keep making those logical leaps and then assume others should fall off the cliff with you.

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1. The oldest copies of 1 Enoch that archeologists have unearthed or discovered are as old as the oldest copies of canonical Old Testament books ever discovered.

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That doesn't matter. The oldest copy we have of the Iliad is over 1,000 younger than when it was written. The Old Testament is older than 1 Enoch, regardless of the oldest manuscripts we have.

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2. All the references to angels sinning, judgement of angels, angels in chains and darkness, etc. in Christian literature - none of that material is found in the canonical Old Testament. It however is contained within 1 Enoch.

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Not everything taught in the New Testament needed to be mentioned in the Old Testament. That's how progressive revelation works. Even so, you haven't shown that those teachings about angels and so on originated with 1 Enoch rather than from an earlier source that the writers of 1 Enoch drew from.

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3. The book we call 1 Enoch was widespread from Greece to Anatolia to Syria to Israel to Egypt to Ethiopia. Ancient copies were found in Greek, Aramaic, Syriac, Latin, Coptic, and Gaez.

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Yes, and yet it wasn't considered Scripture outside of a few individuals and the Ethiopians. The Old Testament was considered Scripture universally, by Jews and Christians, and across all geographies.

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4. In the Dead Sea scrolls collection at Qumran, that sect (likely Essenes) had more copies of 1 Enoch than all books of the canonical Old Testament except Deuteronomy and the Psalms. It was very highly valued by them.

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Yes, it was highly valued by them, but I question your facts. It's my understanding that their 1 Enoch copies were fragments, not entire copies, and it's also my understanding that there are more copies of Isaiah, Genesis, Exodus, and Leviticus than of 1 Enoch. Also, it's my understanding that the copies of 1 Enoch represent about 1.5% of all the writings included in their library.

I think you are overestimating the importance of 1 Enoch.

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Do you understand that this is an empty, baseless assertion? How do you “know” that “the Bible” is God’s infallible word? First you make the presumption that your specific God character is a real figure and isn’t imaginary, without evidence to back it up. You are simply a slave to the Roman Catholic Church and John Calvin. They made the canon, and then you believe what you are spoon fed. You now have a dogma, and you “defend” it with vicious circular logic. You know it is God’s word because it is in the Bible, and you know it is the Bible because it is God’s word. It’s not enough to persuade or convince anyone who doesn’t already have that same dogma.

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It's not baseless, nor empty. You, again, show your lack of logical thinking.

All claims rely on certain presuppositions that are foundational and cannot be affirmed by something more foundational. The Bible's claim that it is the word of God cannot be less foundational than something else, if that claim is true.

Regarding the circularity of the argument: that's not what I'm saying. The transcendental argument is key here, as it states that the God of the Bible is a necessary precondition for intelligibility. All reality and our ability to understand it is upheld by the God of the Bible, and if He did not exist, then we couldn't understand or prove anything. Your demand for evidence assumes an ordered world, yet you can't assume that without addressing other foundational principles, such as the existence of order in the world, uniformity in nature, and so on.

There is much evidence that the Christian God--the God of the Bible exists--and that the Bible, itself, is His revelation, but because you aren't persuaded by it, you don't claim it's evidence at all.

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Most of Christian literature - around 90% of it - is pseudepigrapha. You would agree with me on that. There are no less than about 50 gospels of Jesus Christ that have been discovered. You are “absolutely positive” that exactly 4 of those 50 are the inerrant word of your deity, and you reject the other 46. But in doing so you have to admit that the vast majority of early Christian literature is forgeries and fairy tales. I simply take it a step further and realize that 50 of the 50 are all fairy tales.

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It's not simply a matter of "tak[ing] it a step further". That's the same sort of neoatheistic nonsense that is spouted about God, Himself. It doesn't even work in our logical experience. I'm sure you wouldn't accept me denying that 2+2=4 merely because there are no other numbers that 2+2 equals.

The Church has looked at many factors to determine the authenticity and originality of the writings of the Bible. You are trying to simplify it down to just a personal preference or majority vote, as if the other writings you mention deserve an equal shot, even though their pedigree is not the same.