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re: Religious Leaders Told to 'Prepare Now' for UFO Disclosure and 'Bible-Changing' Revelation
Posted on 5/28/26 at 10:34 pm to FooManChoo
Posted on 5/28/26 at 10:34 pm to FooManChoo
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It must be painful to consistently be defeated on these topics
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while accusing me and others of lying
More than accusing. I noticed you didn’t attempt to refute the evidence. John Calvin, Moses, and Jesus would agree with me on this topic as what I posted to be objective facts. As a refresher:
quote:quote:You know this is bullshite Foo. That’s why you’re such a bad liar. When “Jesus” told the Sadducees they didn’t know the scriptures, you claim that is an affirmation that they all were in agreement on the scriptural canon. It’s hogwash. The Sadducees which controlled the temple patently rejected all but the Torah, for example. And another example - the most successful Christian sect of the 2nd century led by Markion of Sinope rejected the entire Jewish Bible. You’re a bad liar, Foo - seems that knowingly sharing false information should be a noteworthy sin.
The Old Testament was considered Scripture universally, by Jews and Christians, and across all geographies.
ETA: Here’s your earlier comment, which is actually consistent with known facts I will admit.
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the Sadducees, who recognized that Moses wrote the Torah but didn't accept anything beyond that. Jesus' teaching was in alignment with the Pharisees, not the Samaritans or Sadducees.
The Sadducees were only the temple authorities and center of the culture of Jerusalem in the province of Judea.
What’s next Foo? Are you going to claim Sadducees weren’t Jews?
This post was edited on 5/28/26 at 10:50 pm
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 10:39 pm to Mo Jeaux
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I didn’t call YouTube a snake oil website, you dumbass
Umm, yeah, you did.
Posted on 5/28/26 at 10:47 pm to Squirrelmeister
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Moses is a non-historical, fictional character. That’s the consensus of historians, and it’s what is taught at Harvard and Yale divinity schools - they teach that Moses was a composite character and they teach the documentary hypothesis.
I like the idea that Akhenaten was the basis for the Moses character and that after his death his followers fled Egypt, which became the basis for the Exodus story.
This post was edited on 5/28/26 at 10:48 pm
Posted on 5/28/26 at 10:59 pm to AlterEd
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I like the idea that Akhenaten was the basis for the Moses character and that after his death his followers fled Egypt, which became the basis for the Exodus story.
Very plausible. He called the “one true God” Aten… Jews called their “one true God” Adonai… literally “My Aten”. The Egyptian T consonant was interchangeable with the Hebrew D consonant.
Also a contributing factor was King Sargon of Akkad. Cuneiform tablets describe him as being laid in a wicker basket sealed with bitumen. His mother laid him in the Euphrates River and he was later discovered by and raised in the royal family.
Back to Moses though - there were many warring Canaanite tribes that had to unite as Israelites. They had similar traditions and patriarchs that all came from Egypt in their legends. Abraham, Moses, Joseph, and Joshua are all fictive heroes that came from Egypt to father a group of Israelite refugees in Canaan. In their tales, they all left Egypt with treasure and/or cattle and goods plundered before they left.
All myth. Fun to learn about.
Posted on 5/28/26 at 11:13 pm to Squirrelmeister
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Abraham, Moses, Joseph, and Joshua are all fictive heroes that came from Egypt to father a group of Israelite refugees in Canaan. In their tales, they all left Egypt with treasure and/or cattle and goods plundered before they left.
Right. Abraham actually came from Sumer, but point taken. That was a recurring theme. Apparently everyone went to Egypt to get rich back in the day.
I remember listening to a Billy Carson video awhile back (I don't consider this guy an authority by any means, but he is fun to listen to anyways) and he was claiming Moses was driven out of Egypt after stealing the Ark of the Covenant which was the main electrical component inside the Pyramid which made the entire thing operate as a power generator. It was a fun listen. I wish I could remember what that video was.
This post was edited on 5/28/26 at 11:18 pm
Posted on 5/28/26 at 11:16 pm to AlterEd
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Abraham actually came from Sumer, but point taken.
See Genesis 12:10-20.
Posted on 5/28/26 at 11:18 pm to Mo Jeaux
Do you dispute this? Abraham was from Ur. Which, when you consider this, this is probably why so many of the OT stories are ripped straight from Sumerian sources.
This post was edited on 5/28/26 at 11:21 pm
Posted on 5/28/26 at 11:25 pm to AlterEd
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Do you dispute this?
Do I dispute what? Why are you such an angry person? Read the chapter and verses of genesis that I posted. They will explain what squirrel was referring to.
Posted on 5/28/26 at 11:27 pm to Mo Jeaux
I understand exactly what he was saying. I only pointed out that Abraham came from Ur because of what I was mentioning earlier about the OT stories being taken from older Sumerian stories. There is the likely connection. Abraham.
And I'm not angry.
And I'm not angry.
This post was edited on 5/28/26 at 11:28 pm
Posted on 5/28/26 at 11:28 pm to AlterEd
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Right. Abraham actually came from Sumer, but point taken. That was a recurring theme. Apparently everyone went to Egypt to get rich back in the day
It’s just that they were all variants of the same myths. Some myths had Abraham coming from Ur (of ancient Sumer, but when this was written it was probably during the Persian period when Ur was considered the domain of the Chaldeans who were conquered/annexed recently by the Persians). Some myths had Abraham coming from Egypt. The biblical scribes compiled all the myths and legends and the redactors and editors tried to put it all together into a somewhat almost coherent narrative. That’s why we get three identical stories - one with Abraham and Sarah in Egypt with the Pharoah, another with Abraham and Sarah in Gerar with king Abimelech, and a third with Isaac and Rebekah with king Abimelech in Gerar. As a reader we are supposed to just gloss over those and believe those are three separate stories.
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Moses was driven out of Egypt after stealing the Ark of the Covenant
The idol made by human hands of wood and precious metal for the worship of Yahweh adorned with divine images of that were prohibited by the first/second commandments.
Posted on 5/28/26 at 11:40 pm to Squirrelmeister
I think the idea that it functioned as a large electrical capacitor is pretty intriguing. Several of the biblical accounts of its effects make sense when viewed from that angle.
Posted on 5/28/26 at 11:42 pm to Squirrelmeister
Yahweh was only one of the Cannanite gods. Baal was another. When Moses came down from the mountain, he found people returning to Cannanite religion and embracing the other gods. Moses wanted to found a religion based on Yahweh, not the other gods, so he rebuked them. This is why it was written on his tablet "You shall have no other gods before me, because I am a jealous god". Other gods exist. It is important to know where your gods come from.
Posted on 5/28/26 at 11:51 pm to wackatimesthree
Why is that funny? I enjoy these discussions. Obviously.
Posted on 5/28/26 at 11:56 pm to AlterEd
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Why is that funny?
Because it's so obviously not true.
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I enjoy these discussions.
I'm sure you do. I've known plenty of people who like being angry.
Posted on 5/29/26 at 12:00 am to wackatimesthree
Where in this exchange the obvious anger? Is it me asking the other user for clarification on their point? Asking them if they dispute my statement?
If you think there is obvious anger there, you're pretty frickin stupid too. In fact, everything in the post was rational and level headed.
If you think there is obvious anger there, you're pretty frickin stupid too. In fact, everything in the post was rational and level headed.
This post was edited on 5/29/26 at 12:01 am
Posted on 5/29/26 at 12:04 am to AlterEd
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If you think there is obvious anger there, you're pretty frickin stupid too.
Yeah, but that's not what I said, nor what he said, so that leaves the title of pretty frickin' stupid to you.
Posted on 5/29/26 at 12:05 am to wackatimesthree
You're frickin boring, man.
Posted on 5/29/26 at 12:06 am to AlterEd
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You're frickin boring, man.
If you blink out your address I'll call the cops for you and they can tackle the guy holding a gun to your head forcing you to reply to me.
Posted on 5/29/26 at 6:48 am to 10thyrsr
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Yahweh was only one of the Cannanite gods. Baal was another.
Yahweh was adopted by the Canaanites that came to be known as the Israelites and Judahites. Earlier than that, Yahweh was worshipped by the Edomites and Midianites and what the Egyptians called the Shasu of YWH - nomadic tribes from the Sinai and northwestern Arabia.
Yahweh was a storm and volcano deity. That was a problem because the traditional Canaanite storm deity was Baal. Some Canaanites believed these gods (Yahweh and Baal) to be the same deity (see the episode where David named a landmark “Baal-Perazim” because “Yahweh broke through” right there). Others believed them to be distinct deities (see the episode where Elijah tested Yahweh and then had the prophets of Baal murdered).
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When Moses came down from the mountain, he found people returning to Cannanite religion and embracing the other gods
The story in the Bible has his people worshipping Yahweh using an idol they’d made out of gold, which is consistent with Canaanite tradition. The story in the Bible is a polemic against the Canaanite practices that were used in Yahweh worship at the cities of Dan and BethEl where they used statues of golden bulls as idols to channel Yahweh:
A lot of people for some reason think the story in exodus has Moses returning from the mountain with the people worshipping other gods. That’s not the case. They were worshipping Yahweh using an older style of worship that fell out of favor during the Persian period due to Persian Zoroastrianism influence.
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This is why it was written on his tablet "You shall have no other gods before me, because I am a jealous god". Other gods exist
They absolutely believed in many gods, but that Yahweh was their favorite god and the only one worthy of being worshipped - which began in the Persian period. The archaeological record though shows that from about 1000BC through the Babylonian exile, the Israelite/Judahites worshipped Yahweh as a priority but not exclusively. They also worshipped Asherah the queen of heaven and mother of Yahweh, and El Elyon the father of a Yahweh, and Anat the wife of Yahweh, and Nahushtan the snake deity of healing, among others.
The biblical authors and redactors absolutely believed in a complete pantheon of gods. Exodus 20 is a great example, but even better are Psalms 82 and 89. It’s literally all throughout every book of the Bible that many deities exist. One of my other favorites is in Habakkuk where Yahweh has Canaanite gods as sidekicks that help him with his destructive efforts- before him went Deber, and Resheph followed at his feet. These two Canaanite deities are likely translated as “plague” and “pestilence” in your bible or similar. Very interesting!
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