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re: Religious Leaders Told to 'Prepare Now' for UFO Disclosure and 'Bible-Changing' Revelation
Posted on 5/11/26 at 11:00 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 5/11/26 at 11:00 am to SlowFlowPro
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However, it creates a lot of doubt and raises many questions while creating countless paths where there becomes lots of conflict.
No it doesn't.
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Posted on 5/11/26 at 11:02 am to imjustafatkid
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No it doesn't.
If something as significant as a more advanced species than humans existing in the universe was left out of the Bible, yeah, it does.
It raises the question of what else was left out of the Bible, and that can go in literally endless digressions.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 11:03 am to SlowFlowPro
Simulation theory is still hanging in there as a viable answer.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 11:13 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:No, it wouldn’t. All biological species that is not human are the same in the sense that humans are made in the image of God while all other biological creatures are not.
A biological species that is more advanced than us would be hard to compare to lower animals like you're doing.
I’m not comparing intelligence between one creature and another, but being and purpose.
quote:Feel free to ask them.
This raises so many more questions.
This post was edited on 5/11/26 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 5/11/26 at 11:24 am to GRTiger
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Simulation theory is still hanging in there as a viable answer.
Sure, but that would mean no gods as we know it.
I have no idea why they'd program my simulation to include certain people I've met in my life. I know that I am real, but y'all? Why would my creator do that to me?
Simulation theory is backed in this weird distrust in the sentience of others. I've never fully understood it.
This post was edited on 5/11/26 at 11:25 am
Posted on 5/11/26 at 11:31 am to FooManChoo
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No, it wouldn’t.
Consciousness alone makes it completely different.
Their advanced nature makes them superior to us, in fact.
How can you compare a superior species to species below humans?
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I’m not comparing intelligence between one creature and another, but being and purpose.
Then you're ignoring why the Bible puts animals below us and trying to hide behind some "chosen one" designation that makes no sense given aliens' superiority to us.
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Feel free to ask them.
I have multiple times with no reasonable response. I can copy/paste
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A better question is how significant a fact/variable would need to be in order to have an impact on Christianity by being left out of the Bible
A new holy book?
A new savior?
A proclamation of polytheism?
Clearly these would significantly change Christianity as it's understood on Earth, correct?
Posted on 5/11/26 at 12:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:I'm arguing from a theological point of view, and in so doing, I reject your definition of "superior species" on that basis.
Consciousness alone makes it completely different.
Their advanced nature makes them superior to us, in fact.
How can you compare a superior species to species below humans?
In the Bible, angels are "superior" to humans in many ways, and yet the Bible teaches that humans are more prominent than angels in redemptive history, including the future state, where humans will judge angels. Humans are made in the image of God with certain traits that reflect God's glory in ways that angels do not, as they are not created in God's image in the same way.
If angels are "superior" to even advanced aliens, and yet humans are superior to angels in prominence, value, reflection of God's glory, then humans are superior to aliens, regardless of their intelligence.
quote:Again, I'm arguing from purpose and ontology or being. Humans are created with a special purpose (to reflect God's glory) in a way that is unique from all other creatures, including angels, who are spiritual beings.
Then you're ignoring why the Bible puts animals below us and trying to hide behind some "chosen one" designation that makes no sense given aliens' superiority to us.
Man's value to God is not because we're smarter than other creatures, so therefore our place in creation is not diminished if there are "smarter" creatures than humans. Again, it can be argued that angels are smarter than humans, and yet humans are greater than angels from a theological perspective.
quote:I didn't see them, so thank you for sharing.
I have multiple times with no reasonable response. I can copy/paste
quote:If God had different revelation from the Bible, then He would cease to be the God of the Bible, because He would contradict Himself, which He claims He cannot do in the Bible. Not just additional revelation, but a different revelation, contrary to what He has provided.
A better question is how significant a fact/variable would need to be in order to have an impact on Christianity by being left out of the Bible
A new holy book?
quote:A new savior would be substantial and contradictory to the Bible. God is triune, meaning three persons in one essence or being. Jesus is the 2nd person of the Trinity, and He is said to be ruling and reigning in Heaven at this moment as the God-man mediator, interceding for man (not angels or other creatures) with the Father right now.
A new savior?
Jesus is the God-man precisely because humans--being made in the image of God in a special way that no other creatures are--fell into sin. God made a covenant of life with Adam, promising everlasting life if he obeyed God's commands, and death if he disobeyed. Adam disobeyed and sinned, leading to his death, both physical (he began to die as soon as he sinned, and eventually died in his body), and spiritual (he was guilty of sin and deserving eternal death in Hell). God saved man through the covenant of grace, whereby the Father made a covenant with the Son, Jesus, and all the elect in Jesus, to send Jesus into the world to satisfy the covenant of works on our behalf and to grant eternal life for the elect by faith.
The covenants and law were given to men, not to angels or other beings, so that is why Jesus had to take on a human nature for humanity. It's also why He continues to rule in Heaven as the God-man, one person (the 2nd person of the Trinity) in two natures (fully God and fully man). Jesus could not take on a 3rd nature (alien), and He could not duplicate Himself to be the God-alien in addition to the God-man.
The nature of God and the covenants He has made with Himself and with humanity preclude another "savior", and therefore, another salvation for aliens or any other creatures.
quote:That would be a contradiction of the Bible, and like a new "holy book" that contradicts the Scriptures, this would mean the God of the Bible doesn't actually exist (if true).
A proclamation of polytheism?
quote:They would, and yet those things are not necessarily existent just because aliens would exist, even if they claimed an alien version of Christianity. There would be contradictory truth claims between Christianity and whatever this alien religion (if you are presupposing one exists) would teach, and therefore Christians would need to examine them the same way we examine Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, etc.
Clearly these would significantly change Christianity as it's understood on Earth, correct?
This post was edited on 5/11/26 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 5/11/26 at 12:37 pm to FooManChoo
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If God had different revelation from the Bible, then He would cease to be the God of the Bible, because He would contradict Himself,
This is the point.
Something as massive as aliens being left out of the bible leaves this possibility open.
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Not just additional revelation, but a different revelation, contrary to what He has provided.
This is exactly why other religions from the Canaanite religions from where Judaism spread claim Christianity is wrong, mind you.
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A new savior would be substantial and contradictory to the Bible.
Again, exactly.
Something as massive as aliens being left out of the bible leaves this possibility open.
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That would be a contradiction of the Bible, and like a new "holy book" that contradicts the Scriptures, this would mean the God of the Bible doesn't actually exist (if true).
See above
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and yet those things are not necessarily existent just because aliens would exist,
I didn't say that. They're illustrations to show how making the Bible a skeleton work (by leaving out aliens) would raise all sorts of questions. We could no longer rely on the Bible as a complete work describing the universe, which is a problem.
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There would be contradictory truth claims between Christianity and whatever this alien religion (if you are presupposing one exists)
I'm not even talking about that, but, this, again, creates all sorts of questions.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 12:39 pm to AlterEd
FAKE NEWS.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 12:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
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It raises the question of what else was left out of the Bible, and that can go in literally endless digressions
Quantum theory, relativity and America exceptionalism and exceptionalism of American lawyers was also left out of the Bible. Throw in The Calculus.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 12:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
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There is a path where there may not be conflict, even if the aliens are corporeal beings and not "Demons" or "angels". It would be really messed up and basically commit the aliens to Hell, and I'm not sure how they would react to that, but it's theoretically possible.
However, it creates a lot of doubt and raises many questions while creating countless paths where there becomes lots of conflict. The issues are more about the Bible than the Christian god, in theory.
Nothing past the first comma in this post is true.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 12:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Their advanced nature makes them superior to us, in fact.
What arrogant nonsense.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 12:56 pm to wackatimesthree
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What arrogant nonsense.
I'm arrogant because I called a species superior to humans?
Posted on 5/11/26 at 2:19 pm to AlterEd
I wonder if the individuals messing up everyone's dinner at the steak house in Little Rock were from another dimension...
Posted on 5/11/26 at 2:29 pm to BuckeyeGoon
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Here's what I dont understand about all of this- why are we in a position where the US government is even in control of disclosure? And by that question I mean why would the aliens give that power to the US government? They fly all the way to our planet but immediately work with the US government, either directly or indirectly, to keep theirselves a secret until the US government says its ok to reveal? What reason would they have to be so secretive?
Think about how many thousands of aircraft are in the air every single day all over the planet, but by some random chance its only US military aircraft having these kinds of encounters. And if it is happening to other countries, why hasnt a single country ever cracked and revealed anything? If North Korea for example had good evidence of UFOs, what reason would they have to also keep it a secret?
Man, there is a whole lot wrong with this post. And I'm not trying to insult you or anything like that. Just pointing out that you must be ignorant of a lot concerning this topic.
1. Again, nobody is saying these are extraterrestrials flying from some distant planet. Most people are saying they're from here.
2. Many more people other than US military pilots have seen these things.
3. Other governments have already come clean about what they know and it appears everyone has been waiting in the US to do so because we have the best technology. If we say we don't know where they come from, they probably don't belong to any earthly government.
I could go on.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 2:33 pm to AlterEd
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3. Other governments have already come clean about what they know and it appears everyone has been waiting in the US to do so because we have the best technology. If we say we don't know where they come from, they probably don't belong to any earthly government.
I'm not sure I've read anything put out by other governments. Which nations have done so?
Posted on 5/11/26 at 2:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
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If something as significant as a more advanced species than humans existing in the universe was left out of the Bible, yeah, it does
No, it doesn't. It doesn't matter how many times you say it, it will not be true.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 2:34 pm to AlterEd
You have consistently shown that you don't even understand the conversation being had. 
Posted on 5/11/26 at 2:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Sure, but that would mean no gods as we know it.
You're wrong here too.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 2:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
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You have consistently shown that you don't even understand the conversation being had.
A simple graphic totally refutes what you're saying. If these things are proven to be real, you won't be able to say they were left out of the Bible when there are at least a dozen different non human intelligences discussed in the Bible. If anything, it will reinforce what the Bible is saying.
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