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re: Religious Leaders Told to 'Prepare Now' for UFO Disclosure and 'Bible-Changing' Revelation

Posted on 5/12/26 at 6:09 am to
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 6:09 am to
I'm using reality.

Is that how you hold yourself in a spiritual environment?

Faith is spiritual. How does one believe without it?

Your belief as far as any Biblical context is stopped by your reality issue.

As far as alien beings, God created the UNIVERSE
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 6:14 am to
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Is that how you hold yourself in a spiritual environment?

Faith is spiritual. How does one believe without it?

Your belief as far as any Biblical context is stopped by your reality issue.


You do realize that this stance effectively removes you from any meaningful participation in this conversation, right?

If reality itself doesn't have any impact, then why participate in a conversation about the impacts of a change in reality (And nothing else) and the impacts this would have?
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 6:16 am to
Hey now. I just told you my opinion on its affect. Sorry you cant see it.


Actually that happens a lot with you slo.


You said you are using reality. I did not say what you came back with. But that is you all day everyday.
This post was edited on 5/12/26 at 6:18 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 6:21 am to
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You said you are using reality.

That's the presupposition of the thread.

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I did not say what you came back with

What?

I pointed out how your stance means you have nothing to contribute to the conversation. I didn't re-state your position or offer any direct criticism.

I just said that your stance isn't relevant.

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But that is you all day everyday.



It's like you have pre-prepared talking points you're trying to irrationally force in when they have no place.
This post was edited on 5/12/26 at 6:22 am
Posted by UtahCajun
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 6:52 am to
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How many of those "intelligences" are organic beings?


Many could have been organic. I can imagine that humans of the time would struggle to explain beings from somewhere else and just revert to placing divine tags on them.

If that is what happened, then everything about the bible unravels.
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 7:04 am to
Irrelevant to whom?
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 7:05 am to
Stargate was fun watch
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 7:11 am to
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I can imagine that humans of the time would struggle to explain beings from somewhere else and just revert to placing divine tags on them.

I agree, but the Bible isn't supposed to be a creation of man.

This line of argument makes the Bible seem to be more of a creation of man, and I doubt that's what the people to whom I was responding would agree.

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If that is what happened, then everything about the bible unravels.

Yes.

This applies more to the "angels are aliens" argument, though. Note I didn't say "aliens are angels" intentionally.
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 7:12 am to
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Irrelevant to whom?



To what, not whom, and the answer is the thread/discussion. As I already said

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You do realize that this stance effectively removes you from any meaningful participation in this conversation, right?

If reality itself doesn't have any impact, then why participate in a conversation about the impacts of a change in reality (And nothing else) and the impacts this would have?
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 7:23 am to
Stone said: 'You're going to have people who are going to say if there are galaxies and there are allegedly other creations in the galaxies, then the whole creation story is a myth, and you're going to have people that's going to apostatize and turn from the Christian faith because they have no answer for what they're about to hear.'

God created the Universe. This aint nothing but fear porn. Have a great day.

Some irrelevance for you.
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 7:27 am to
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Stargate was fun watch

It was the first time or two.
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 7:31 am to
I hear ya. It was cool to imagine I suppose. The basis of the show was showing how you can debunk things like the Bible and belief by portraying people believing alien beings were the God. At first it seemed as exploration but the underlying theme continued.

from mr irrelevent
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 7:31 am to
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Stone said: 'You're going to have people who are going to say if there are galaxies and there are allegedly other creations in the galaxies, then the whole creation story is a myth, and you're going to have people that's going to apostatize and turn from the Christian faith because they have no answer for what they're about to hear.'

God created the Universe. This aint nothing but fear porn. Have a great day.


He did create everything.

Multiple gardens of eden and multiple Adams and Eves, with many of them choosing to commit sin, which means multiple messiahs.

Man, that gets messy.
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 7:33 am to
That is an assumption but ok.
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 7:34 am to
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I hear ya. It was cool to imagine I suppose. The basis of the show was showing how you can debunk things like the Bible and belief by portraying people believing alien beings were the God. At first it seemed as exploration but the underlying theme continued


Much of the OT was a copy and paste of earlier texts learned while the Jews were elsewhere. Older civilizations honestly thought and taught that what we call divine beings were infact from elsewhere in the universe.
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 7:37 am to
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That is an assumption but ok

Logic based on what we think is divine text given to us by a divine being.

I mean, the Garden of Eden was on this planet or another? Was this not the divine start of life or was it just the start of the human race? If it was the start of life, how did aliens get to other planets from here? It makes much more sense, logically, that they had their own Garden on their own planet.
This post was edited on 5/12/26 at 7:55 am
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 7:46 am to
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undeniable proof

Doesn’t exist.
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 7:49 am to
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if the Bible is supposed to be some complete work of truth about the universe


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Posted on 5/12/26 at 7:51 am to
Which part of that comment is the straw man?

The use of compete?
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 7:53 am to
Yes
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